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« Reply #315 on: April 23, 2017, 06:29:41 pm »
Gee, maybe because it's really easy to lie to a survey? Maybe because regardless of how conservative their religious beliefs are they know better than to tell a survey "Why, yes, I do think those **** should all be killed."

As I said, actions speak louder than words.

So, they lie about their connection to Canada and our mainstream values, but don't lie about why they wear a headscarf or how much they attend mosque?  Isn't it amazing how their lies absolutely support your conviction about what they believe!  Thank goodness you are here to tell us what people think!  Perhaps you should name yourself God, since you have so much infallible insight into other people.   ::)

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« Reply #316 on: April 23, 2017, 06:31:10 pm »
That is your assumption and is not borne out by facts, or by what Muslims themselves say.

It's pretty **** well borne out by what they do, though. You can lie through your teeth all you want. Nobody who isn't a very conservative religious Muslim is going to wear those garments, and conservative religious Muslims hate gays and think women who don't cover their hair are ****. Let alone women who walk around in shorts and tank tops. Actually, it would not surprise me in the LEAST to find you wear a hijab yourself.

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Did you know that it's estimated that about 10% of the population in Egypt considers themselves gay?

Oh bullshit. Gays don't even make up 10% of the population of any western country.

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It is pretty arrogant and ignorant on your part to assume you know the minds and hearts of every Muslim in the country based on what they are wearing.     

It's pretty arrogant and ignorant of you to tell bald faced lies when anyone with more than half a brain knows better.
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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #317 on: April 23, 2017, 06:33:56 pm »
So, they lie about their connection to Canada and our mainstream values, but don't lie about why they wear a headscarf or how much they attend mosque?

They see no reason to lie about whether they wear a hijab or not. They're proud to wear a hijab. Why would they lie about that, or about attending mosque?
But they know enough, from exposure to our culture, to know that expressing hatred towards gays, or a belief that women are inferior and must at all times obey men, will not go over very well among infidels. And, after all, their religion gives them permission to lie to infidels.

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Thank goodness you are here to tell us what people think!  Perhaps you should name yourself God, since you have so much infallible insight into other people.   ::)

Your position that these women adorning themselves everywhere they go in religious garb are actually liberals who don't take their religion seriously  is so much complete and utter **** bullshit that nobody sane would believe it.
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

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« Reply #318 on: April 23, 2017, 06:48:19 pm »
It's pretty **** well borne out by what they do, though. You can lie through your teeth all you want. Nobody who isn't a very conservative religious Muslim is going to wear those garments, and conservative religious Muslims hate gays and think women who don't cover their hair are ****. Let alone women who walk around in shorts and tank tops. Actually, it would not surprise me in the LEAST to find you wear a hijab yourself.

When will you figure out that you can't possibly know what other people are thinking or what their motivations are?   

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Oh bullshit. Gays don't even make up 10% of the population of any western country.

a significant homosexual community exists in Egypt; according to sexologist Heba Kotb, between 10%-12% of the population is gay..[1]
http://www.cairoscene.com/LifeStyle/On-Homosexuality-6-Egyptian-Men-Reveal-What-It-s-Like-To-Be-Gay-In-Egypt

Excuse me for thinking an Egyptian Sexologist would know what she's talking about. 

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It's pretty arrogant and ignorant of you to tell bald faced lies when anyone with more than half a brain knows better.

Where did I lie?

You remain arrogant and ignorant to claim you know what a woman is thinking and what her values are because she wears a headscarf.   

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« Reply #319 on: April 23, 2017, 06:52:29 pm »
They see no reason to lie about whether they wear a hijab or not. They're proud to wear a hijab. Why would they lie about that, or about attending mosque?
But they know enough, from exposure to our culture, to know that expressing hatred towards gays, or a belief that women are inferior and must at all times obey men, will not go over very well among infidels. And, after all, their religion gives them permission to lie to infidels.

Your position that these women adorning themselves everywhere they go in religious garb are actually liberals who don't take their religion seriously  is so much complete and utter **** bullshit that nobody sane would believe it.

Your position that you know what motivates these women and what their values are is so much complete and utter **** bullshit, and is borne out every single day when millions of Canadian Muslims do absolutely nothing to the people you claim they are beholden to hate and kill. 

Boy, it must really burn your butt that a woman who you suspect must certainly be Muslim in a headscarf talks back to YOU, a MAN, and regularly proves you wrong.  If only I knew my place, eh?   

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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #320 on: April 23, 2017, 06:53:19 pm »
When will you figure out that you can't possibly know what other people are thinking or what their motivations are?

I'm fairly sure your motivation is to defend Islam from any and all accusations, and to further the spread of Islam.

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Excuse me for thinking an Egyptian Sexologist would know what she's talking about.

Why should I forgive you for having no ability to analyze information as to its credibility - or outright lying? It's one or the other.
Not even San Fransisco is 10% gay. It's about 6.5%. The idea that Egypt has twice as high a percentage of gays as San Francisco is ludicrous.


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You remain arrogant and ignorant to claim you know what a woman is thinking and what her values are because she wears a headscarf.   

You remain a liar to try to pretend wearing the hijab has no religious meaning.
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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #321 on: April 23, 2017, 06:55:06 pm »
Your position that you know what motivates these women and what their values are is so much complete and utter **** bullshit, and is borne out every single day when millions of Canadian Muslims do absolutely nothing to the people you claim they are beholden to hate and kill. 

Give them time. Once their numbers are high enough we'll start getting the same stuff as the British, French, Germans and Belgians are being introduced to now.
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Boy, it must really burn your butt that a woman who you suspect must certainly be Muslim in a headscarf talks back to YOU, a MAN, and regularly proves you wrong.  If only I knew my place, eh?   

You've never proved me wrong about anything, but I wish you'd at least show the courage and honesty to admit you're a Muslim. But then Muslims don't NEED to be truthful with infidels, do they?
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« Reply #322 on: April 23, 2017, 07:00:51 pm »
, but I wish you'd at least show the courage and honesty to admit you're a Muslim. But then Muslims don't NEED to be truthful with infidels, do they?

Nah, ain't Muslim, don't wear a headscarf.  Pretty sure you won't believe me, but that's ok - only a very frightened person has to order his life around what he believes instead of what is true. 

Anyway, just done with you for today, Argus, thanks for the entertainment.

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« Reply #323 on: April 23, 2017, 07:05:25 pm »
Nah, ain't Muslim, don't wear a headscarf.  Pretty sure you won't believe me, but that's ok - only a very frightened person has to order his life around what he believes instead of what is true. 

Funny. I'd say that about everything you post. Anyway, you should be pleased I think you're a Muslim.

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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #324 on: April 23, 2017, 09:22:02 pm »
Gee, maybe because it's really easy to lie to a survey? Maybe because regardless of how conservative their religious beliefs are they know better than to tell a survey "Why, yes, I do think those **** should all be killed."

As I said, actions speak louder than words.
Oh I see, so it's easy to lie to a survey, but not possible to lie to Kellie Lietch's Canadian Values survey. Can you spell hypocrite?

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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #325 on: April 23, 2017, 09:46:25 pm »
I took an over the line insult that was pointed out to me out of a post.  Let's try to keep it civil.

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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #326 on: April 24, 2017, 10:44:03 am »
Oh I see, so it's easy to lie to a survey, but not possible to lie to Kellie Lietch's Canadian Values survey. Can you spell hypocrite?

Are you a dog? Because your memory seems astonishingly short. It's as if you can't remember discussions already held, even long ones, on this very subject, right in this very topic, where it was pointed out that such tests are designed to get around people's natural inclination to tell the reviewer what the test subject thinks they want to hear. A survey generally asks a few basic, simple questions. The kinds of tests you take for employment with a large organization are quite a bit longer, often taking an hour or two. People will sit still for that since they want the job, but would never do so for an unpaid survey.
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Re: On Canadian Values
« Reply #327 on: April 24, 2017, 12:41:11 pm »
Are you a dog? Because your memory seems astonishingly short. It's as if you can't remember discussions already held, even long ones, on this very subject, right in this very topic, where it was pointed out that such tests are designed to get around people's natural inclination to tell the reviewer what the test subject thinks they want to hear. A survey generally asks a few basic, simple questions. The kinds of tests you take for employment with a large organization are quite a bit longer, often taking an hour or two. People will sit still for that since they want the job, but would never do so for an unpaid survey.
So you just conveniently assume that people lie on surveys because it suits your purpose. got it argus..oh sorry john.

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« Reply #328 on: April 24, 2017, 02:01:19 pm »
So you just conveniently assume that people lie on surveys because it suits your purpose. got it argus..oh sorry john.

If he didn't assume some things and ignore other things, he wouldn't be able to believe himself.

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« Reply #329 on: May 02, 2017, 08:18:24 am »
So you just conveniently assume that people lie on surveys because it suits your purpose. got it argus..oh sorry john.

The assumption that people lie on surveys is the same as the assumption that they don't.  Equally valid.  People will tell a survey whatever suits them most.