Canadian Politics Today

See? I pay you the courtesy of replying with legitimate points on topic, with references and all you've got for a reply is slurs and sneers.

And you wonder why I insult lefties? Seriously? This is why. It's also why I put you on my ignore list on that other site. Because there was just no way of holding an adult discussion with you.

You also have the luxury of being retired to go through sources and post out of context data. Some of us don't have the time to continuously debunk you by contextualizing your "data." More importantly, I've done it so many times in the past only for you to completely ignore what I'm saying and double down on your completely wrong interpretations of things that it's just not worth the effort anymore.

Mo, that is what the Muslim women who have been surveyed to create the data have told us. Choosing to wear symbols of your religion is a whole different scenario than being forced. It is also quite common in many immigrant populations that subsequent generations integrate  more effectively than the initial arrivals, which appears to be the case with this group as well.

No, it does not. If the second generation was integrating more than those who arrived then they would be casting off these ridiculous, archaic sexist pieces of fabric and enjoying the sun on their hair. Whether they are forced to do so by ethnic group peer pressure or chose these things themselves, the fact they wear them when other Muslim women do not is absolute proof of growing adherence to the more conservative doctrines of Islam. There simply is no other sane way to look at it.

You also have the luxury of being retired to go through sources and post out of context data. Some of us don't have the time to continuously debunk you by contextualizing your "data." More importantly, I've done it so many times in the past only for you to completely ignore what I'm saying and double down on your completely wrong interpretations of things that it's just not worth the effort anymore.

How is it 'out of context' to cite a report by the Immigration department that shows which countries produce the most economically successful immigrants and which produce the least economically successful, and suggest we should bring in more from the former and less from the latter?

How is it 'out of context' to state that if growing numbers of Canadian Muslim girls and women are wearing religious garb, and reports state they are more religious than their parents, that this indicates growing conservatism among them?

How is it "out of context" to point to detailed reports indicating that immigration will not have any meaningful affect on a declining birthrate or an aging population?

How is it 'out of context' to point to the Fraser Report which suggests the number of immigrants with poor economic outcomes is costing governments $30 billion a year?

How is it 'out of context' when I cite passages from a book on our immigration system by a pro immigrant writer, and a report from the senate, both pointing out that only a small fraction of immigrants ever see an immigration officer face to face prior to being accepted as an immigrant and arriving in Canada?

What exactly am I doing which is out of context with relation to making the point for the need for immigration reform and better screening?

No, it does not. If the second generation was integrating more than those who arrived then they would be casting off these ridiculous, archaic sexist pieces of fabric and enjoying the sun on their hair. Whether they are forced to do so by ethnic group peer pressure or chose these things themselves, the fact they wear them when other Muslim women do not is absolute proof of growing adherence to the more conservative doctrines of Islam. There simply is no other sane way to look at it.

You quite obviously regard your highly biased opinion higher than the actual results of surveys of these people. Stumbling around in such darkness must get a bit tiresome

You quite obviously regard your highly biased opinion higher than the actual results of surveys of these people. Stumbling around in such darkness must get a bit tiresome

The results of the survey say they are more religious than their parents and more inclined to wear religious garments. I'm not sure why you believe this means they don't believe in Islam but I find that very unlikely.

The results of the survey say they are more religious than their parents and more inclined to wear religious garments. I'm not sure why you believe this means they don't believe in Islam but I find that very unlikely.

The results of the survey also say that their social attitudes are more in line with mainstream Canadians than were their parents.  Why do you continually ignore this part of the survey in favor of your unsubstantiated opinion that what they choose to wear also defines their social attitudes?   

then they would be casting off these ridiculous, archaic sexist pieces of fabric

Have you burnt your bra yet?