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Online John Mark Taylor

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2020, 06:55:54 am »
He's a weird guy, that's for sure.  But he is a member of the media and on public space, and the question he kept asking - why is Khadr not on the no-fly list - is a valid one.  I'd like to know.

He’s not a member of the media.  Not in any credible way, anyway.  The answer to the question is none of his business.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #136 on: February 12, 2020, 01:58:50 pm »
Just going to jump in here and say ... Omar Khadr's first trial was the most informative. It was a military tribunal that only got to pre-trial before being shut down by the newly elected Obama administration.
I followed it via news media from the Texas? town where it was held.

This is my memory of what I read:
A US soldier testified that he quickly looked around the wall, saw a large pile of debris and one remaining live and armed AlQuaeda fighter ... and THEN the grenade that killed Christopher Speer came over the wall.
When US soldiers went around the wall, the remaining armed AlQuaeda fighter was executed.
Then they heard moaning from the pile of debris, and found Omar Khadr under it, unarmed and severely injured. The US soldier testified that Omar Khadr could not have thrown the grenade because he was already under the pile of debris.

That US soldier was not heard from again in the subsequent trial, where it was expedient for Khadr to take a plea to minimize his jail time.

Surprisingly, I have now found mention of this in Canadian news:
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008/03/13/lawyer_khadr_report_altered.html


The military commander’s official report the day after the raid originally said the assailant who threw the grenade was killed, which would rule out Khadr as the suspect.

The report was revised months later, under the same date, to say a U.S. fighter had only “engaged” the assailant, according to Kuebler, who said the later version was presented to him by prosecutors as an “updated” document.

Kuebler told reporters after the hearing that it appears “the government manufactured evidence to make it look like Omar was guilty.”


Review here:
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/07/opinion/what-if-omar-khadr-isnt-guilty

There are those (like Rebel Media) who don't care about truth, only about demonizing Muslims as 'terrorists'.

But I thought I'd just bring this up for other inquiring minds who might take an interest in this largely unknown bit of truth.

Khadr himself has acknowledged that he has no memory of those crucial moments (perhaps being already injured and under a pile of debris).

Less known, too, is that US soldiers shot him twice after finding him, until a senior officer heard him say he was Canadian. It's a miracle he survived, and he was potentially a huge embarrassment to the US military ...
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #137 on: February 12, 2020, 07:00:05 pm »
do you have the conditions/criteria that would place someone on Canada's no-fly list. As you seem to imply Mr. Khadr should be on said list, of those conditions/criteria you haven't (yet) qualified, which one(s) are you using to support your implication?

He's a terrorist, he's seen on videotape making IED's in Afghanistan to kill NATO soldiers.  Maybe consider not letting people on planes who have a knowledge and history of making homemade bombs for the purposes of terrorism.  I'm there's that.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #138 on: February 12, 2020, 07:08:46 pm »
He’s not a member of the media.  Not in any credible way, anyway.  The answer to the question is none of his business.

Well, his media outlet is really crappy, easily one of the crappiest in Canada, but that doesn't mean he's not a member of the media if we happen to disagree with his media coverage.  Our Charter rights, freedom of the press et al, do not depend on whether we like a person or not.  TMZ is media too.

He has a right to ask Omar a question just like media can go to a courthouse and put a mic and camera near a person's face, and Omar has the right not to answer, as he did.  If we're going to defend Omar's rights, as we should, we should defend Ezra's too.

I don't enjoy defending the guy, but he does get unjustly bullied/censored by police/authorities because of his political leanings (note, he's a lawyer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfyyxyRK9gE
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #139 on: February 13, 2020, 08:13:26 am »
He doesn't get bullied, he is a bully.  It's likely that by any actual legal standard Khadr is innocent.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #140 on: February 13, 2020, 08:15:49 am »
He's a terrorist, he's seen on videotape making IED's in Afghanistan to kill NATO soldiers.  Maybe consider not letting people on planes who have a knowledge and history of making homemade bombs for the purposes of terrorism.  I'm there's that.

He was a 14 year old kid under orders from his terrorist father. He was never convicted for that.

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #141 on: February 15, 2020, 12:26:36 am »
He doesn't get bullied, he is a bully. 

He does get bullied, by the state no less.  If you don't see that you don't believe in democracy.  Doesn't mean some of the stuff he says isn't bad/wrong.  Ya he's a bully and a blowhard, but he still has rights.  You didn't watch the video i linked.

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It's likely that by any actual legal standard Khadr is innocent.

Maybe of the grenade incident, but he's also on videotape making IED's in Afghanistan.  He was without question a teenaged terrorist.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #142 on: February 15, 2020, 12:45:59 am »
He was without question a teenaged terrorist child soldier.

fixed it for ya!
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #143 on: February 16, 2020, 02:14:50 am »
fixed it for ya!

Child solider...AND? 

I'm sure you'd enjoy flying on a plane with Omar, sounds like fun to me!

More like teenaged solider.  A **** child is 8, not 15, don't give a crap what the definition says.

Omar's resistance to his parent's terrorism lifestyle is legendary!

F*** Omar Khadr right to fly.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #144 on: February 16, 2020, 02:24:13 pm »

Omar's resistance to his parent's terrorism lifestyle is legendary!


With all due respect, you know **** all about him.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #145 on: February 16, 2020, 04:19:26 pm »
With all due respect, you know **** all about him.

I know he's a terrorist and I wouldn't want to fly on a plane with him.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #146 on: February 16, 2020, 04:33:24 pm »
I know he's a terrorist and I wouldn't want to fly on a plane with him.

No you don't know that. There is no clear evidence he threw the grenade that killed Speer and even if he did, if using a grenade in a firefight makes you a terrorist then there are a shitload of soldiers around the world who are now terrorists. And then of course there was that 10 years in Gitmo during which he was tortured into making a confession. If you don't want to fly on a plane with him then stay home or catch a different flight.

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #147 on: February 16, 2020, 05:49:00 pm »
I know he's a terrorist and I wouldn't want to fly on a plane with him.

Not only would he have not been found guilty in civilian court with his normal rights, but it would not have even went to trial:

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/07/opinion/what-if-omar-khadr-isnt-guilty
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #148 on: February 16, 2020, 09:34:07 pm »
No you don't know that. There is no clear evidence he threw the grenade that killed Speer and even if he did, if using a grenade in a firefight makes you a terrorist then there are a shitload of soldiers around the world who are now terrorists. And then of course there was that 10 years in Gitmo during which he was tortured into making a confession. If you don't want to fly on a plane with him then stay home or catch a different flight.

Bro, there's video evidence of Omar constructing IED's in Afghanistan.  It's on Youtube.  Guy is rich, he can buy his own helicopter.
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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #149 on: February 16, 2020, 09:50:08 pm »
Not only would he have not been found guilty in civilian court with his normal rights, but it would not have even went to trial:

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/07/opinion/what-if-omar-khadr-isnt-guilty

Here's video of Omar Khadr constructing IED's and then smiling while planting them at night, then chillin with an AK-47 behind him.  The video was found at the compound where he was captured.  And you want this guy on planes?  K cool.

https://www.dvidshub.net/video/305992/ied-video-with-omar-khadr

F*** him and his family.  Make an example out of all of them.  You fight against Canada and Canada is done with you.  That was Harper's stance, but he took it too far. 

That p**sy Trudeau reversed the law where terrorists could get stripped of Citizenship.  Trudeau is a terrorist P**sy licker and has been in the same room with 2 of them.  Moron.  Lick Trudeau's p**sy won't you.  You pledge war against Canada you're not a Canadian anymore.  Bye-bye voting rights and passport, GTFO of my country before I kill you myself.
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