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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2017, 05:23:15 pm »
Regardless, it would have been signed off by the highest levels of government.  This is too political to not have gone to the PMO.

How does that work, though ?  If two parties are in dispute and it goes to arbitration - does one get final say ?  That seems to be a abrogation of process.  I wouldn't agree to such a thing, but I admit I don't know details.

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 05:42:09 pm »
"Arbitration" can mean different things.  It doesn't have to be binding.  It's a negotiation, and you can bet something this political would go right to the top of government. 

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2017, 05:55:53 pm »
Arbitration is when an outside source - hopefully neutral, hears both sides and makes a decision.  This isn't what happened.  What happened is that Trudeau made a deal to make it all go away with as little media as possible. 

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2017, 06:36:50 pm »
Well, reading the facts I know that there is serious doubt around Khadr's guilt, and a dearth of court decisions that show Canada violated his rights.  Given that, I don't see what we were going to fight, or why.

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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2017, 07:09:39 pm »
Well, reading the facts I know that there is serious doubt around Khadr's guilt, and a dearth of court decisions that show Canada violated his rights.  Given that, I don't see what we were going to fight, or why.

Really?  Well, how about the slimy way that our PM handled the settlement?  It sounds like you have it all figured out.  Maybe, as a moderator, you'd like to shut down the thread because you have a difference of opinion.

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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2017, 07:16:50 pm »
I haven't shut down the thread and I don't intend to.  On this forum I participate as a member and only take action when absolutely necessary.

As for the way it was handled - I'm sure there were legal and privacy concerns to consider.

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2017, 07:18:26 pm »
Also, I'd just like to remind everyone to refrain from insulting politicians or each other.  Other than saying something that violates the law, anything else is fair game.

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2017, 07:20:16 pm »
I haven't shut down the thread and I don't intend to.

But that can change right ?  Ahhhh... moderation.  Let me know if you need a hand... I'm for hire at a very unreasonable rate.

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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2017, 07:42:41 pm »
But that can change right ?  Ahhhh... moderation.  Let me know if you need a hand... I'm for hire at a very unreasonable rate.

I'd much rather just edit the offending part of posts.

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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2017, 07:43:29 pm »
I haven't shut down the thread and I don't intend to.  On this forum I participate as a member and only take action when absolutely necessary.

As for the way it was handled - I'm sure there were legal and privacy concerns to consider.

Pretty obvious there were privacy concerns - as in let's slip this under the radar.  And, the legal concerns were simply, "let's make sure the widow doesn't get judgement on Khadr's money".

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2017, 07:52:02 pm »
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"let's make sure the widow doesn't get judgement on Khadr's money".

How did they do that?

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2017, 07:54:39 pm »
I'd much rather just edit the offending part of posts.

Make sure to edit in apologies from me to all the pin-heads I have insulted, not mentioning names. :D

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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2017, 09:43:05 pm »
How did they do that?

You did read the story, right?

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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2017, 09:01:32 am »
I have "actually read the facts".  My point is about the process of how this went down.  Trudeau could've fought this - even a little.
If you did read the fact, then you clearly didn't understand them because you would know that he couldn't fight it--even a little. The precedent was already set by Harper with Maher Arar.

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Re: Omar Khadr Settlement Rumour
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2017, 11:28:27 am »
Why couldn't he "fight it - even a little"?