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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #105 on: January 02, 2021, 02:16:33 pm »
Quote from: wilber on January 02, 2021, 01:33:42 pm
It astounds me that these people have to be told not to leave the country.

Yes, the rules are made for the plebs to make it safer for the elite to travel abroad.  Most people sacrifice and pitch in to do their part, which makes it easier for them to go on their holidays;  we don’t spread our nasty germs to them.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #106 on: January 02, 2021, 04:34:21 pm »
I don't know it it is tone deaf dumbness or just plain entitlement. Probably a bit of both.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #107 on: January 02, 2021, 04:55:09 pm »
Quote from: wilber on January 02, 2021, 01:33:42 pm
It astounds me that these people have to be told not to leave the country.
We know from the history of the Spanish Flu that public scorn and disdain for official measures increased as the pandemic wore on and only made the pandemic worse. I suspect that contempt must have built on the same sense there were two sets of rules according to one's station in life. This sort of damaging and example-setting contempt-inspiring behaviour goes far beyond any PR issues it creates for one's party or station.

It won't astound me in the least that as memory of this pandemic fades that'll be the first thing that get's forgotten.  The public really is it's own worst enemy at times.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2021, 05:14:40 pm »
add CPP 'Ron Liepert' (MP Calgary Signal Hill): "traveled twice to Palm Desert, Calif., since March, his office confirmed Saturday, so he could deal with... essential house maintenance issues. - including presently being away during the current recess. His spokesperson also adding, "There has been no non-essential travel, and he has complied with all public health guidance, including the Alberta border testing program, each time he has traveled"

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The spokesperson for Liepert did not immediately return a request from CBC News inquiring what specific maintenance Liepert had to resolve at his Palm Desert home.

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Since becoming Leader, Mr. [Erin] O'Toole has continued to emphasize the necessity for all members of caucus to follow all public health guidance including travel advisories," said Chelsea Tucker, O'Toole's press secretary, in an email. "It is our understanding that all members of caucus have.

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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2021, 07:27:14 pm »
It’s worth noting that almost everyone who travelled is from one half of the political spectrum.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2021, 11:57:54 pm »
Quote from: waldo on January 02, 2021, 11:51:28 am
even though its provincial, how about a special shout-out to Alberta Premier Jason Kenney giving his (3... and counting) MLAs a pass... cause he personally didn't set a policy of 'no travel'... while also emphasizing no laws were broken!  ;D

now up to 8 Alberta UCP MLA's or senior staffers traveled outside of Canada during the holiday period; 6 per the graphic below plus the 2 latest identified traveling to Hawaii together as Michael Forian (press secretary for Alberta’s education minister) & Eliza Snider (press secretary for the province’s minister of advanced education):

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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #111 on: January 03, 2021, 04:36:48 pm »
Two Liberals travelled over the holidays. Both have lost their responsibilities (parliamentary secretary and committee membership). Still waiting for any accountability in Alberta.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #112 on: January 03, 2021, 04:44:31 pm »
BTW - I think all MPs who travelled since March should resign.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #113 on: January 03, 2021, 04:48:18 pm »
Why are people allowed to travel for vacations?  Don't we have any travel restrictions, either provincially or federally?  Is it only elites who can travel?  Can regular people travel?  Are they?  What kind of horsecrap is going on here?  It's mayhem.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #114 on: January 03, 2021, 05:10:16 pm »
The governed have been putting up with this from their betters since...forever.

Am I supposed to believe public outrage will somehow transcend partisan politics and somehow finally pit the innies and and the outies against one another?

In my dreams maybe.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2021, 05:10:31 pm »
Quote from: Gorgeous Graham on January 03, 2021, 04:48:18 pm
Why are people allowed to travel for vacations?  Don't we have any travel restrictions, either provincially or federally?  Is it only elites who can travel?  Can regular people travel?  Are they?  What kind of horsecrap is going on here?  It's mayhem.

Anyone can travel. MPs should set a higher standard.

It has come to my attention that MP Liepert is on a Parliamentary Committee (Library of Parliament). Erin O'Toole needs to do the right thing.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #116 on: January 03, 2021, 08:54:51 pm »
Quote from: JMT on January 03, 2021, 05:10:31 pm
Anyone can travel. MPs should set a higher standard.

It has come to my attention that MP Liepert is on a Parliamentary Committee (Library of Parliament). Erin O'Toole needs to do the right thing.

Well on the positive, we get to filter out some of the dumb politicians who have exposed themselves for their dumbness.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #117 on: January 04, 2021, 01:50:46 pm »
Finally some accountability in Alberta today with Allard losing her job and others losing their jobs.
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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #118 on: January 04, 2021, 03:25:04 pm »
Quote from: JMT on January 04, 2021, 01:50:46 pm
Finally some accountability in Alberta today with Allard losing her job and others losing their jobs.

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Re: The Official Opposition thread (was O’Toole thread)
« Reply #119 on: January 05, 2021, 12:16:26 am »
what... you thought this wouldn't include the Senate? I expect the first of 'several' Senators to be referenced!

this one is kinda special in that Conservative Senate Opposition Leader, Don Plett, released this video on December 17... and 10 days later left for a holiday in Mexico! Hippocrit!
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