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« Reply #960 on: November 30, 2022, 12:55:12 pm »

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« Reply #961 on: November 30, 2022, 01:12:02 pm »
oh my! PeePee is already MIA during the Emergencies Act Inquiry! Now with Poilievre's refusal to answer questions concerning the Alberta Sovereignty {within a United Canada Act}, just when will we ever see PeePee again?


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« Reply #962 on: November 30, 2022, 01:25:11 pm »
from the esteemed Emmett Macfarlane:

The most unconstitutional bill in Canada's modern history --- The Alberta Sovereignty Within a United Canada Act

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Yesterday the Alberta government under Danielle Smith unveiled Bill 1, the Alberta Sovereignty Within a United Canada Act. This is the ‘Sovereignty Act’ Smith had long talked about and it is every bit the assault on the constitutional division of powers, rule of law, and democracy her initial descriptions foretold. But for an added surprise it includes an additional assault on responsible government and the separation of powers in the form of provisions that would allow the government to unilaterally amend legislation - any legislation - in the legislature’s stead.

Bill 1 purports to allow the Alberta legislature to determine whether a federal law violates the constitution or to declare whether it “causes or is anticipated to cause harm to Albertans” as a prelude to allowing the government to amend legislation to combat, revoke, or address the allegedly dangerous federal law(s) however it sees fit. This can happen only after a resolution to this effect passes the legislature. But upon the passing of such a resolution, Bill 1 gives a free hand to the government to change any law on the books and to order “provincial entities” - which include any provincial agencies or institutions (municipalities, universities and even the police!) - to ignore or violate federal law, even criminal law.


We’re talking about a full-frontal assault on not only the very idea of federalism and the constitutional division of powers but also on responsible government and representative democracy, the lynchpins of democracy in a parliamentary system that rest on the legislature not abdicating its roles in either holding the government to account or, y’know, being the body that legislates.

And to be extra clear, under the terms of section 3 of this Bill, Smith and her government are claiming the right to order provincial entities to ignore or violate federal law even if that federal law is valid.

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #963 on: November 30, 2022, 01:29:18 pm »
oh my! PeePee is already MIA during the Emergencies Act Inquiry! Now with Poilievre's refusal to answer questions concerning the Alberta Sovereignty {within a United Canada Act}, just when will we ever see PeePee again?

I bet not even PP is stupid enough to think that the Act is a good thing.  If it can be used by a conservative government to ignore a Federal Liberal government in Ottawa, then it can also be used by an NDP government to ignore federal laws when Cons are in power. (If that ever happens again….)
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #964 on: December 02, 2022, 08:09:36 pm »
Doesn't Quebec already do whatever the heck it wants and ignore the Charter when it suits and Ottawa bends over for them?
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #965 on: December 02, 2022, 08:43:54 pm »
Doesn't Quebec already do whatever the heck it wants and ignore the Charter when it suits and Ottawa bends over for them?

Quebec never signed the Constitution. Alberta did.
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« Reply #966 on: December 02, 2022, 09:34:02 pm »
Quebec never signed the Constitution. Alberta did.

It's still binding even if they didn't sign it.  Ratification didn't depend on it being unanimous
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #967 on: December 03, 2022, 11:50:56 am »
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-some-of-canadas-premiers-appear-to-be-losing-their-minds/

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We are not saying that Canada’s duly elected premiers are tinpot dictators. But we are saying that some of them have gone off the democratic deep end in the pursuit of their political agendas.

The latest example is Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. Her government this week tabled its promised deliverance from the iron chains of federalism, the Alberta Sovereignty within a United Canada Act, and it’s as loony as anticipated.

The bill proposes, after the simple passage of a resolution in the legislature, to give cabinet the power to unilaterally amend legislation via orders in council. Cabinet can do so if it’s been decided that a federal law is unconstitutional, or even just “harmful,” without first testing the constitutionality of the law in question in court, and without defining the word “harmful.”

Cabinet can also order provincial bodies not to enforce specific federal policies or laws. It verges on insanity.

Wow.  I didn't know that this bill was so crazy

What's going on in Alberta anyway?

I thought they were against big government? But they're okay with cabinet seizing power?


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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #968 on: December 03, 2022, 12:13:15 pm »
intense blowback - who knew! To the point whimpering Alberta Premier Smith now says she's open to amendments... "to add clarity"! LOL!

=> The Alberta Sovereignty Act plays a dangerous game — for no rational reason --- A 'game of political chicken' is being played with the Constitution and national unity

=> Danielle Smith declares war on the rule of law

=> Danielle Smith’s Sovereignty Act Is Even Worse than Expected --- Legislation would give premier and cabinet the powers of a dictator and shred Constitution.

=> Albertans are being played for fools --- Danielle Smith's sovereignty gambit is a threat to Canada - and to her province

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #969 on: December 03, 2022, 04:10:19 pm »
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #970 on: December 03, 2022, 04:11:15 pm »
Trudeau standing above The fray with this idiot in Alberta is a godsend.

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #971 on: December 03, 2022, 04:30:21 pm »
The Sovereinty Act makes the government in power dictators.
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #972 on: December 03, 2022, 04:35:00 pm »
Trudeau standing above The fray with this idiot in Alberta is a godsend.

AB has gone rogue because Trudeau gov keeps squatting over AB and taking poos on them.  War on carbon means war on oil and gas & war on farming fertilizer.
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« Reply #973 on: December 03, 2022, 05:25:27 pm »
AB has gone rogue because Trudeau gov keeps squatting over AB and taking poos on them.  War on carbon means war on oil and gas & war on farming fertilizer.

Alberta is taking policy as a personal attack.  Again.

Boo hoo. 

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #974 on: December 03, 2022, 05:48:34 pm »
Alberta is taking policy as a personal attack.  Again.

Boo hoo.

Personal?  No, the policies hurt them economically, which makes them mad.  The entire province runs on oil, gas, and farming.
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