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Offline Granny

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #435 on: November 29, 2019, 08:12:54 am »
The usage has changed over the years. I am assuming the Texas oil rig "rednecks" became associated with conservative politics, and then conservatives became extremist over the years.

Oil workers are called 'roughnecks', not rednecks.

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« Reply #436 on: November 29, 2019, 09:47:06 am »
The wilber knows when governments forgo revenues from one source they have to make it up somewhere else. BC’s carbon tax goes into general revenue. waldoMath thinks money comes out of thin air.
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #437 on: November 29, 2019, 11:44:49 am »
Oil workers are called 'roughnecks', not rednecks.

Rig pigs  ;D
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« Reply #438 on: November 29, 2019, 12:48:51 pm »
wilberMath2.x => now accounts for and factors a general revenue pot - prior versions of wilberMath viewed equalization and revenue streams as direct province-to-province transfers

protip: member wilber's carbon tax slice is not forgone revenue!

protipDeux: life-cycle CNG emissions are less than regular gas/diesel => in that regard BC government support to Translink appears warranted

protipTrois: life-cycle LNG emissions, particularly with a global export focus, are less than coal/oil => in that regard BC government support for the LNG industry appears warranted

protipQuatre: current BC government rebate programs for installing high-efficiency natural gas equipment appears warranted

protipCinq: the CleanBC Industrial Incentive Program for industry to reduce its emissions intensity... while still paying a carbon tax on emissions above applicable performance benchmarks appears warranted

Got a kick out of this one. My BC carbon tax is being used to subsidize energy companies.

where's your kick member wilber - where's your kick?

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #439 on: November 29, 2019, 01:10:17 pm »
wilberMath2.x => now accounts for and factors a general revenue pot - prior versions of wilberMath viewed equalization and revenue streams as direct province-to-province transfers

protip: member wilber's carbon tax slice is not forgone revenue!

protipDeux: life-cycle CNG emissions are less than regular gas/diesel => in that regard BC government support to Translink appears warranted

protipTrois: life-cycle LNG emissions, particularly with a global export focus, are less than coal/oil => in that regard BC government support for the LNG industry appears warranted

protipQuatre: current BC government rebate programs for installing high-efficiency natural gas equipment appears warranted

protipCinq: the CleanBC Industrial Incentive Program for industry to reduce its emissions intensity... while still paying a carbon tax on emissions above applicable performance benchmarks appears warranted

where's your kick member wilber - where's your kick?

Revenues forgone are still subsidies.
All those things you list are also subsidies.
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #440 on: November 29, 2019, 01:19:00 pm »
Oil is also lower emitting than coal.
So where does BC's position as North America's larges coal exporter figure into this?
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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #441 on: November 29, 2019, 01:57:50 pm »
Oil is also lower emitting than coal.
So where does BC's position as North America's larges coal exporter figure into this?

Agreed. There are multiple issues at play however. A coal spill is nowhere near the disaster an oil spill would be.

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« Reply #442 on: November 29, 2019, 02:01:06 pm »
Agreed. There are multiple issues at play however. A coal spill is nowhere near the disaster an oil spill would be.

So don't use oil then. Oil spills don't seem to be an issue on the East Coast, 7000 tankers arriving every year.
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« Reply #443 on: November 29, 2019, 02:12:36 pm »
So don't use oil then. Oil spills don't seem to be an issue on the East Coast, 7000 tankers arriving every year.

Ontario & Quebec get most of their oil from western Canada and the US.

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« Reply #444 on: November 29, 2019, 02:24:22 pm »
Ontario & Quebec get most of their oil from western Canada and the US.
7000 oil tankers a year arrive in east coast ports. 85% of Canadian tanker movements are on the east coast.
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« Reply #445 on: November 30, 2019, 01:14:39 am »
Got a kick out of this one. My BC carbon tax is being used to subsidize energy companies.

wilberMath2.x => now accounts for and factors a general revenue pot - prior versions of wilberMath viewed equalization and revenue streams as direct province-to-province transfers

protip: member wilber's carbon tax slice is not forgone revenue!

protipDeux: life-cycle CNG emissions are less than regular gas/diesel => in that regard BC government support to Translink appears warranted

protipTrois: life-cycle LNG emissions, particularly with a global export focus, are less than coal/oil => in that regard BC government support for the LNG industry appears warranted

protipQuatre: current BC government rebate programs for installing high-efficiency natural gas equipment appears warranted

protipCinq: the CleanBC Industrial Incentive Program for industry to reduce its emissions intensity... while still paying a carbon tax on emissions above applicable performance benchmarks appears warranted

where's your kick member wilber - where's your kick?

All those things you list are also subsidies.

so you get a kick out of... government subsidies resulting in reduced emissions and government subsidies acting to incentivize industry to reduce emissions? Hey, whatever floats your boat!

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #446 on: November 30, 2019, 01:18:13 am »


c'mon justVisitingJason... you're not offering any considerations for... thanks to... PM Trudeau/Liberals & former Alberta Premier Rachel Notley/NDP? Why so, hey justVisitingJason - why so?

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #447 on: November 30, 2019, 01:26:05 am »
Alberta's UCP holding its official AGM today/through the weekend... of course, Harper is still pulling all the strings!

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Re: No llores por mí Alberta
« Reply #448 on: November 30, 2019, 08:07:55 am »
Alberta's UCP holding its official AGM today/through the weekend... of course, Harper is still pulling all the strings!

And Kenney is still wearing blinders and counting on pipelines, as he drives his province down into a very difficult place.


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« Reply #449 on: November 30, 2019, 01:25:38 pm »
so you get a kick out of... government subsidies resulting in reduced emissions and government subsidies acting to incentivize industry to reduce emissions? Hey, whatever floats your boat!

Perhaps you should read the article. Things like.

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The mining exploration tax credit, which helps to subsidize coal, was made permanent in 2019, the report says. Coal exploration increased by 58 per cent the previous year, it says.

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