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Re: gun control
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2020, 10:49:02 pm »
Well, how do you propose to weed out those who are doing it for ďfunĒ, vs for food, or whatever other reason you deem acceptable?

I don't have a proposal.  Do I need one?

If I did have one I would expect a Nobel at the very least.
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Re: gun control
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2020, 11:03:36 pm »
I don't have a proposal.  Do I need one?

If I did have one I would expect a Nobel at the very least.

If you don't have one, then your suggestion is nonsense, no?

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« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2020, 08:47:52 am »
If you don't have one, then your suggestion is nonsense, no?

My mistake.  I didn't read your post correctly. 

I don't have a suggestion for weeding those out either.  I did say it wasn't going to happen.

However, one could ban all hunting of any kind, and then issue licences for those who show they need it for sustenance.  That's not going to happen either.  But it would if I was in charge.

Obviously, that's not worth a Nobel prize.
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Re: gun control
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2020, 11:14:11 am »
Firearms should be illegal - there, I said it.

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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2020, 12:10:01 pm »
Firearms should be illegal - there, I said it.

Nothing wrong with that opinion!  Firearms are inherently dangerous. I think we can probably come to a realistic compromise between what we have now and your view.  I donít think making gun ownership illegal is a realistic option. 

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« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2020, 01:15:42 pm »
Nothing wrong with that opinion!  Firearms are inherently dangerous. I think we can probably come to a realistic compromise between what we have now and your view.  I donít think making gun ownership illegal is a realistic option.

I came to this view today.

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« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2020, 02:17:13 pm »
I think firearms designed to kill humans should be illegal.  Handguns, automatic weapons, maybe even semi-automatic.  Single-shot hunting rifles and shotguns are typically designed for hunting and can't really be used for mass shootings.

Hunters will also never give up their guns, and it will be a disaster, like the long-gun registry.  They'll bury their guns before giving them up.
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Re: gun control
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2020, 02:29:41 pm »
I think firearms designed to kill humans should be illegal.  Handguns, automatic weapons, maybe even semi-automatic.  Single-shot hunting rifles and shotguns are typically designed for hunting and can't really be used for mass shootings.

Hunters will also never give up their guns, and it will be a disaster, like the long-gun registry.  They'll bury their guns before giving them up.

Well burying them would be one effective way of curbing gun crimes.

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Re: gun control
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2020, 03:24:04 pm »
I think firearms designed to kill humans should be illegal.  Handguns, automatic weapons, maybe even semi-automatic.  Single-shot hunting rifles and shotguns are typically designed for hunting and can't really be used for mass shootings.

Hunters will also never give up their guns, and it will be a disaster, like the long-gun registry.  They'll bury their guns before giving them up.

Sure, but most of those are semi autos.

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« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2020, 04:15:00 pm »
There should be a buy-back paid for by taxes on ammunition and the guns that remain allowed to be bought and sold. 

Itís not going to be a popular thing to do, and look for the usual knuckledraggers in Alberta and Sask to get a hate-on even more, but itís the right thing to do.

However, this government will be too chicken-****...  theyíll ban ďassaultĒ weapons, which is mostly an aesthetic.  Handguns wonít be touched, except to allow cities to ban them, but WTF is that going to do?  Nothing that I can see. 

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« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2020, 04:23:50 pm »
"In regards to gun control, we took very serious commitments in the election campaign and have moved forward -- and are moving forward on them -- to ensure that we're strengthening gun control in this country," Trudeau told reporters, according to CTV.

While campaigning last year, Trudeau said he wanted to ban assault-style rifles and set up a buyback program for all military-grade weapons that had been legally purchased.
Authorities have not said what kind of weapons the gunman used in Nova Scotia.

"I can say that we were on the verge of introducing legislation to ban assault-style weapons across this country; it was interrupted when the pandemic caused Parliament to be suspended," Trudeau said.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/americas/nova-scotia-shooting-monday/index.html

Interested to know what gun(s) were used in this rampage.  Maybe we should also ban replica RCMP cruisers!
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« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2020, 04:47:15 pm »
"In regards to gun control, we took very serious commitments in the election campaign and have moved forward -- and are moving forward on them -- to ensure that we're strengthening gun control in this country," Trudeau told reporters, according to CTV.

While campaigning last year, Trudeau said he wanted to ban assault-style rifles and set up a buyback program for all military-grade weapons that had been legally purchased.
Authorities have not said what kind of weapons the gunman used in Nova Scotia.

"I can say that we were on the verge of introducing legislation to ban assault-style weapons across this country; it was interrupted when the pandemic caused Parliament to be suspended," Trudeau said.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/americas/nova-scotia-shooting-monday/index.html

Interested to know what gun(s) were used in this rampage.  Maybe we should also ban replica RCMP cruisers!

That replica RCMP cruiser can already get you 5 years in the hoosegow.
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« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2020, 08:58:31 pm »
Sure, but most of those are semi autos.

Most hunting rifles are bolt action repeaters, not semi autos.
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« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2020, 10:53:10 pm »
Gun culture is just as dangerous as gun access.  Even if we had the exact same laws as most US states Canadians wouldn't own and use guns the same way Americans do.
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« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2020, 08:20:15 am »
Most hunting rifles are bolt action repeaters, not semi autos.

That's certainly not the case with anyone that I know.  Everyone here has semi auto rifles and shotguns.