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Online Michael Hardner

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Welcome to governing Canada 101.  When has it ever not been thus?

We have had some bold moves, some decisions and some changes that made a lasting impact.  Status Quo isn't always the Status Quo.

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We have had some bold moves, some decisions and some changes that made a lasting impact.  Status Quo isn't always the Status Quo.

Some.  The Canada Child Benefit and Canada Infrastructure Bank may one day be counted among those. 

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So you'd prefer to just keep throwing anyone who doesn't fit your view of the world in jail? Got it.

It would be interesting to open up your skull and have a look at the weird way in which your thinking processes work.
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Because no self respecting man ever cries, right?

Not in public. Not without enormous emotional strain.
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Offline SirJohn

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Welcome to governing Canada 101.  When has it ever not been thus?

You mean when have we not have a style over substance government? The last time would be two years ago.
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We have had some bold moves, some decisions and some changes that made a lasting impact.  Status Quo isn't always the Status Quo.

Name these 'bold moves' please.

This country has major issues which should be addressed, but spineless politicians who only have eyes for the election cycle won't go near them because they're complicated and messy and would take a lot of time to solve. They also bring political risks.  You won't find Trudeau EVER taking a political risk. He is a shallow, callow boy.
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Regarding reparations, I am ok with it if it is in regard to specific individuals for specific incidents.

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Not in public. Not without enormous emotional strain.

That’s a pretty tired idea of masculinity.
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Online Michael Hardner

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Name these 'bold moves' please.

Healthcare (1960s) Canadian Culture Laws (1970s) Official Bilingualism (1970s)
 
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  You won't find Trudeau EVER taking a political risk. He is a shallow, callow boy.

People knew as much during the election.  We were told there was a brain trust, but it seems like there is only a family trust.

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That’s a pretty tired idea of masculinity.

What's your idea? Weeping at every opportunity? I can only imagine him trying to negotiate face to face with someone like Vladimir Putin. The moment Putin gets angry Trudeau will start crying. Gah!

I said before that those people who bitched about Harper not being 'nice' were fools. I didn't want a 'nice' prime minister. I want one who's hard headed and can be cold blooded when necessary. I don't want a PM to be my friend and confidante. I want him to be a tough assed SOB.
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Healthcare (1960s) Canadian Culture Laws (1970s) Official Bilingualism (1970s)

Ah, I thought you were referring to the present government. I would say health care qualifies. Not the others. Official Bilingualism was certainly not brave given that Quebec, at the time, supplied half the seats for the Liberals and that it was designed to appease Quebec. "Culture wars" whatever that is, are always waged on behalf of the constituency which supports your party. So hardly very brave.
 
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People knew as much during the election.  We were told there was a brain trust, but it seems like there is only a family trust.

I think people just were ready for a change, and Harper didn't offer anything new. This coincided with a temporary economic downturn caused by oil price declines.  I wrote the party six months before the election telling them they needed to go big and bold or they'd be on the opposition benches. They should have listened to me.
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Official Bilingualism was certainly not brave given that Quebec, at the time, supplied half the seats for the Liberals and that it was designed to appease Quebec.

Bold, not brave.

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I think people just were ready for a change, and Harper didn't offer anything new. 

Meh.  It's ok.  True change is a baffling thing to put through.  Lawyers and academics can't do it.  Elon Musk impresses me, but who knows.
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What's your idea? Weeping at every opportunity? I can only imagine him trying to negotiate face to face with someone like Vladimir Putin. The moment Putin gets angry Trudeau will start crying. Gah!

Right  ::)

I don't know if you've ever heard of this thing called nuance.  There are times when crying is completely appropriate.  There are times when it isn't.

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I said before that those people who bitched about Harper not being 'nice' were fools. I didn't want a 'nice' prime minister. I want one who's hard headed and can be cold blooded when necessary. I don't want a PM to be my friend and confidante. I want him to be a tough assed SOB.

I personally like having a human prime minister.
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I also like having a human PM but I also want a few frills, like ideas.

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What's your idea? Weeping at every opportunity? I can only imagine him trying to negotiate face to face with someone like Vladimir Putin. The moment Putin gets angry Trudeau will start crying. Gah!

I said before that those people who bitched about Harper not being 'nice' were fools. I didn't want a 'nice' prime minister. I want one who's hard headed and can be cold blooded when necessary. I don't want a PM to be my friend and confidante. I want him to be a tough assed SOB.

The more I hear, the more I think what you actually want is a president. Trump is obviously much more your type.