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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #1170 on: September 27, 2019, 04:30:09 pm »
LOL 

Trudeau has been all talk, no action on climate.  No different than election reform.   "Fool me once...."

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« Reply #1171 on: September 27, 2019, 05:57:05 pm »
LOL 

Trudeau has been all talk, no action on climate.  No different than election reform.   "Fool me once...."

re: electoral reform --- you may not like the outcome, but a body of work exists to support the rationale behind the decision not to proceed with electoral reform. I spoke to that in the other thread... but didn't see you offer diddly comment to counter/rebut - go figure! Given your reference here, it appears you have something else... something more... to say about electoral reform. Other than your apparent drive-by specialties, if you actually have a pressing need to say something... anything, try that other thread where member Boges and I had a 'bit of back & forth' on it. You can do that, right - say something... say anything?  ;D

re: action on climate --- of course you have no credibility in this regard... even less than your favoured May/GP. Now the waldo wonders if this is your pissant way of ignoring all the waldo's efforts to showcase the failings of the May/GP "Mission Improbable" plan... and more recently the GP 2019 platform proper. I'm shocked you didn't offer rebuttal comment in either regard - shocked I tells ya! Now, this isn't the thread for it, but if you want to dance, try that dedicated Green Party thread - my latest is still 'hot off the press' there. You can do that, right - say something... say anything? After you've established some sense of credibility on the climate file by actually speaking to your favoured May/GP "Mission Improbable" plan, the waldo will feel inclined to respond... but will first be asking you to speak to what action you believe is missed/lacking in the first PM Trudeau/Liberal term. I mean, c'mon... surely you have something... anything to say other than yet another of your drive-by type nothingness that you've just offered here. Something substantive, something more than just your, "all talk, no action" drive-by nothingness - yes?

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« Reply #1172 on: September 28, 2019, 04:22:08 am »
c'mon pundits, weak Andy doesn't march... whether that's in Pride Parades... or in Climate Marches! So, a few days ago, one wag thinks to press Scheer about his not appearing in today's Montreal Climate March, only to have the wily Scheer say his schedule has him in Vancouver. But then another wascally wag mentions to weak Andy that Vancouver is also having a Climate March... and Scheer is whisked away!  ;D

the reason weak Andy couldn't march!


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« Reply #1173 on: September 28, 2019, 09:04:53 am »
People seem to forget that it was the NDP that blocked electoral reform. They refused to budge off their stand on PR, the stupidest anti-democratic, unstable system ever devised, with the possible exception of military dictatorship. I don't want my MP for Saskatoon to be a bagman from Toronto, chosen by a couple of backroom boys in the party. PR makes political parties even more powerful. PR puts ideology ahead of real life.
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« Reply #1174 on: September 28, 2019, 10:41:44 pm »
so... the G&M strikes a chord of balance (notwithstanding given how Fife et al have become the direct propaganda arm for Scheer/CPC, the G&M has miles and miles to go before any semblance of true balance can be recognized)... reporting that Scheer does not have a license to sell insurance!

weak Andy, there's only one way to have been the former insurance broker you/CPC claim... without a license... that's to have done so illegally!  :o

#ScheerNotAsAdvertised
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« Reply #1175 on: September 28, 2019, 11:00:25 pm »
G&M is the probably the most balanced and credible newspaper in the country.
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« Reply #1176 on: September 29, 2019, 09:58:56 am »
so... the G&M strikes a chord of balance (notwithstanding given how Fife et al have become the direct propaganda arm for Scheer/CPC, the G&M has miles and miles to go before any semblance of true balance can be recognized)... reporting that Scheer does not have a license to sell insurance!

weak Andy, there's only one way to have been the former insurance broker you/CPC claim... without a license... that's to have done so illegally!  :o

#ScheerNotAsAdvertised
G&M is the probably the most balanced and credible newspaper in the country.

find me a G&M article where Robert Fife has been critical of Scheer/CPC... on any level! But ya, the G&M hasn't reached the level of PostMedia... yet; on the other hand it so openly embraces this blowhard:


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« Reply #1177 on: September 29, 2019, 12:35:20 pm »
People seem to forget that it was the NDP that blocked electoral reform. They refused to budge off their stand on PR, the stupidest anti-democratic, unstable system ever devised, with the possible exception of military dictatorship. I don't want my MP for Saskatoon to be a bagman from Toronto, chosen by a couple of backroom boys in the party. PR makes political parties even more powerful. PR puts ideology ahead of real life.
Party list candidates are not a required part of PR: It's Parties that push that idea to gain more control. We can dispute that and design it differently.
Trudeau wanted the mush-middle model of Ranked voting. Canadians said no. He had a hissy fit because he couldn't get his way.
Greens and NDP can and will make sure it's done a better way.

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« Reply #1178 on: September 29, 2019, 01:22:32 pm »
G&M is the probably the most balanced and credible newspaper in the country.

Back when I read it regularly, I would say so. They did have a slight conservative stance, but included many other viewpoints as well. They certainly had a better balance than the National Post, Toronto Star, Ottawa Citizen, and Montreal Gazette. While I occasionally looked at the western newspapers, I never read them regularly so I can't really comment on them or the Chronicle Herald. I don't consider any of the toilet paper like the Toronto (& other) Sun tabloids to be newspapers.

There are a couple of local newspapers like the Eganville Leader that are still around that are very well done, but mostly cover local issues.

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« Reply #1179 on: September 29, 2019, 03:55:56 pm »
winner, winner - chicken dinner! #ScheerNonsense

Andrew Scheer is standing by his vow to resume making partisan, patronage appointments to the Senate should the Conservatives form government after Oct. 21

Senator Robert Fife, Senator LilyPad, Senator David Akin... come on down!
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« Reply #1180 on: September 29, 2019, 03:56:28 pm »
Trudeau wanted the mush-middle model of Ranked voting. Canadians said no. He had a hissy fit because he couldn't get his way.

Greens and NDP can and will make sure it's done a better way.

 ;D geezaz - "hissy fit"??? Citation request.

by the by, what stops any majority government from enacting a Government Bill?

I note you've now shifted your imagined "King Maker" capability to also include the NDP. Are you/Lizzie feeling less confident about the GP holding that "balance of power" on its own? Oh my!

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« Reply #1181 on: September 29, 2019, 05:11:53 pm »
so weak Andy wants veterans to trust him... while he targets the current Liberal government for not clearing backlogs! Somehow Scheer wants veterans to forget that it was Harper Conservatives who significantly contributed to that backlog by firing hundreds of front-line workers and closing 9 Veteran Affairs offices - while they withheld $1 billion in funds set aside for veterans over 7 years. Sure veterans, just trust Scheer Conservatives!


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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #1182 on: September 29, 2019, 10:34:24 pm »
find me a G&M article where Robert Fife has been critical of Scheer/CPC... on any level! But ya, the G&M hasn't reached the level of PostMedia... yet; on the other hand it so openly embraces this blowhard:


They have opinion writers on different sides of the spectrum.  You won't find much of that in the National Post or Toronto Star.
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« Reply #1183 on: September 30, 2019, 04:13:32 am »
the big Scheer/CPC giveAwayPalooza... and a balanced budget? Well, ok... that promise morphed from 2 years to now 5 years (will little attention given to that change). But c'mon weak Andy, those deficit targets of yours will require spending cuts - something you've been ducking from the onset of the campaign! What's that you're saying about that tried&true go-to Conservative chestnut to, "find efficiencies"?



for some reason, the missing Conservative amigo, Alberta's Jason Kenney, purposely set the release of his/UCP Alberta budget to 3 days after the federal election. But along that same healthcare "efficiencies" angle, Kenny has expressed his want to leverage the report findings from the, "Blue Ribbon Panel on Alberta's Finances" - proposed findings that include key cuts to healthcare in the form of cuts to front-line public sector workers jobs, like those of nurses... along with increased privatization of health care services. Such efficiency finds!

Messaging like this actually works for me.

I would feel better about these guys being reelected if they would focus on this kind thing instead of having the goofball canoe around the lake and arrive on shore to promise $150 million dollars to send immigrants on camping trips.

I mean, at least Stockwell Day didn't promise to waste $150 million bucks when he jumped off his SeaDoo.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #1184 on: September 30, 2019, 06:19:23 am »
If Trudeau focussed less on his bullshit image (which nobody buys) and more on actually improving services, or (gasp) elevating the level of discussion then I would be enthusiastic about him.

As it is, he is my begrudgingly preferred Federal leader, from a crew that ranges from horrible to adequate.