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« Reply #810 on: August 27, 2019, 02:51:45 pm »
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I'm sure gender-selected abortions done by people other than from developing countries.
Probably
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« Reply #811 on: August 27, 2019, 02:52:37 pm »
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Ra.pe is going to happen no matter what, better to have them in hospitals than back-alleys?

Pedophilia is going to happen no matter what, better to have them in hospitals than back-alleys?

Why are you repeating the same idiotic comparisons that didn’t make any sense the first time?  Repeating something stupid doesn’t make it sound more smarter...   more intelligeter...   better.
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« Reply #812 on: August 27, 2019, 03:08:12 pm »
Probably

Not according to the actual statistics.

 In most of the world, between 103 and 107 boys are born for every 100 girls. Canadian-born women of non-South Asian ethnicity give birth to about 104 boys for every 100 girls.

Earlier research published by Dr. Wanigaratne’s group showed that women born in India, who already had two daughters, gave birth in Ontario to 196 boys for every 100 girls. The sex ratio increased significantly if the mothers had at least one abortion prior to the third birth. They also found that the male-biased ratio was driven by mothers whose mother tongue was Punjabi or Hindi and that the bias remained even after the mother resided in Canada for more than 10 years. The findings suggested the practice of sex selective abortion, which is common in India, is also happening in Canada.

https://www.stmichaelshospital.com/media/detail.php?source=hospital_news/2018/0621
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« Reply #813 on: August 27, 2019, 03:17:15 pm »
Not according to the actual statistics.

 In most of the world, between 103 and 107 boys are born for every 100 girls. Canadian-born women of non-South Asian ethnicity give birth to about 104 boys for every 100 girls.

Earlier research published by Dr. Wanigaratne’s group showed that women born in India, who already had two daughters, gave birth in Ontario to 196 boys for every 100 girls. The sex ratio increased significantly if the mothers had at least one abortion prior to the third birth. They also found that the male-biased ratio was driven by mothers whose mother tongue was Punjabi or Hindi and that the bias remained even after the mother resided in Canada for more than 10 years. The findings suggested the practice of sex selective abortion, which is common in India, is also happening in Canada.

https://www.stmichaelshospital.com/media/detail.php?source=hospital_news/2018/0621

When I said probably, I meant it probably does happen outside of ethnic populations, but likely much rarer.
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« Reply #814 on: August 27, 2019, 03:53:20 pm »
Why are you repeating the same idiotic comparisons that didn’t make any sense the first time?  Repeating something stupid doesn’t make it sound more smarter...   more intelligeter...   better.

Saying something is idiotic or stupid or dumb doesn't make it idiotic/stupid/dumb.  In fact, it's literally the most idiotic argument you can make.  You tell me why it isn't a good comparison, use your big person words.

My argument is that legalizing something that is immoral and does direct harm to a vulnerable victim so that it's done in a safer environment doesn't make it any less immoral.
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« Reply #815 on: August 27, 2019, 04:07:47 pm »
Saying something is idiotic or stupid or dumb doesn't make it idiotic/stupid/dumb.  In fact, it's literally the most idiotic argument you can make.  You tell me why it isn't a good comparison, use your big person words.

My argument is that legalizing something that is immoral and does direct harm to a vulnerable victim so that it's done in a safer environment doesn't make it any less immoral.

Abortion is not immoral in itself.  It may be the most moral choice.

Comparing pedophilia (I think you meant pederasty) to abortion is truly idiotic.  One is illegal.  The other is constitutionally protected. 
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« Reply #816 on: August 27, 2019, 04:57:40 pm »
Abortion is not immoral in itself.  It may be the most moral choice.

Comparing pedophilia (I think you meant pederasty) to abortion is truly idiotic.  One is illegal.  The other is constitutionally protected.

Strawman, we're talking about gender-selected abortions, which in 100% of cases in Canada are immoral.

Also, go find me the reference to abortions in the constitution.  Judges argued it fell under "security of the person", which should only apply if the woman's health is in jeopardy.
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« Reply #817 on: August 27, 2019, 05:07:08 pm »
Strawman, we're talking about gender-selected abortions, which in 100% of cases in Canada are immoral.

Also, go find me the reference to abortions in the constitution.  Judges argued it fell under "security of the person", which should only apply if the woman's health is in jeopardy.

Judges agreed it is a decision which must be made between a woman and her doctor.

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« Reply #818 on: August 27, 2019, 05:10:22 pm »
Strawman, we're talking about gender-selected abortions, which in 100% of cases in Canada are immoral.

Also, go find me the reference to abortions in the constitution.  Judges argued it fell under "security of the person", which should only apply if the woman's health is in jeopardy.

You're mixing abortion and gender selection in your posts.  If you meant gender selection, then your wording was very sloppy.

Also, you're incorrect about the  Morgantaler decision.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Morgentaler
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« Reply #819 on: August 27, 2019, 05:29:32 pm »
Judges agreed it is a decision which must be made between a woman and her doctor.

That's not what they said in the decision either.
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« Reply #820 on: August 27, 2019, 05:51:29 pm »
That's not what they said in the decision either.

Unconstitutional under sect. 7 of the charter if you want the actual legalize.

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« Reply #821 on: August 27, 2019, 07:05:58 pm »
Unconstitutional under sect. 7 of the charter if you want the actual legalize.

I linked to the wiki about the decision.   Read it.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #822 on: August 27, 2019, 07:33:48 pm »
Also, you're incorrect about the  Morgantaler decision.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Morgentaler

No, i was correct.

Here's what I said:
"Also, go find me the reference to abortions in the constitution.  Judges argued it fell under "security of the person", which should only apply if the woman's health is in jeopardy."

Here's from wikipedia:
"R v Morgentaler, [1988] 1 SCR 30 was a decision of the Supreme Court of Canada which held that the abortion provision in the Criminal Code was unconstitutional because it violated a woman's right under section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms ("Charter") to security of person."[/b]
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #823 on: August 27, 2019, 07:37:45 pm »
Well this is interesting and odd:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-duncan-abortion-lgbtq2-1.5262053

Scheer gets support from openly gay candidate over same-sex marriage controversy.

'I wouldn't be running if I had any inkling ... my sexual orientation wasn't welcome in the party'

As Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer continues to battle claims that he is intolerant of the LGBTQ2 community, an openly gay candidate for his party said today he is convinced Scheer's thinking has evolved over time.

"We're ready to go for the election and I wouldn't be running if I had any inkling, whatsoever, that I wasn't welcomed or my sexual orientation wasn't welcome in the Conservative Party," said Eric Duncan, Conservative candidate for Stormont, Dundas and South Glengarry.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #824 on: August 27, 2019, 07:40:16 pm »
Actually it makes sense.  But somehow it makes you wonder what Scheer says to the religious types to make them like him.