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Offline wilber

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #720 on: August 24, 2019, 05:59:44 pm »
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In 2007, the Executive of the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada (SOGC) issued a statement that medical technologies for the sole purpose of gender identification in pregnancy should not be used to accommodate societal preferences, and that the SOGC does not support termination of pregnancy on the basis of gender. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario and the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia also echoed the SOGC’s view.

So these folks are in contempt of Parliament because they don't agree?
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« Reply #721 on: August 24, 2019, 06:04:07 pm »
Seems to me it is a pretty empty gesture, they are just kicking the can to the medical profession.
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« Reply #722 on: August 24, 2019, 06:07:09 pm »
Somebody should ask the SOGC if they support the termination of a pregnancy on the basis of finding the father in bed with someone else.
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« Reply #723 on: August 24, 2019, 06:14:20 pm »
Quote from: bcsapper on August 24, 2019, 06:07:09 pm
Somebody should ask the SOGC if they support the termination of a pregnancy on the basis of finding the father in bed with someone else.

If you support it for any reason, you have to support it for every reason.
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« Reply #724 on: August 24, 2019, 06:38:15 pm »
Quote from: wilber on August 24, 2019, 06:14:20 pm
If you support it for any reason, you have to support it for every reason.

I agree.  That's why I find the notion of vetting a choice such a strange one.
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« Reply #725 on: August 24, 2019, 07:02:18 pm »
Quote from: bcsapper on August 24, 2019, 06:38:15 pm
I agree.  That's why I find the notion of vetting a choice such a strange one.

I guess doctors have choices too.
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« Reply #726 on: August 24, 2019, 07:10:30 pm »
Quote from: wilber on August 24, 2019, 07:02:18 pm
I guess doctors have choices too.

They could choose to be a plumber.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #727 on: August 24, 2019, 07:12:59 pm »
Quote from: Boges on August 23, 2019, 09:45:37 am
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So just to be clear, You're of the opinion that people can't evolve from opinions that haven't aged well?

If you were on record of being against Gay marriage in 2005, you can't suddenly say you're for it now and not receive political blowback.
Has Scheer changed his position? Afaik, he hasn’t said so. You’re making an assumption.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #728 on: August 24, 2019, 07:17:00 pm »
Quote from: the_squid on August 23, 2019, 12:56:07 pm
I also expect my PM and anyone in government to actually be actively in favour of human rights, not just put up with them because they have to.   Being a bigot excludes you from holding office, in my opinion, so I like to know what their personal views actually are.
Except freedom of religion. You actively reject that human right. So I guess you just mean the human rights that you agree with.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #729 on: August 24, 2019, 08:46:54 pm »
Quote from: bcsapper on August 24, 2019, 05:26:48 pm
This is a question I could never understand.  Why be pro-choice if you think you have a right to question the choice? 

A woman should be able to have an abortion for whatever reason she likes.

Really?  "My health is in jeopardy" is as ethical a choice to kill the unborn as "i don't want a girl/boy"?

I believe that women should able to control their own bodies, but when that body is connected to another body that was created through the woman's own willful choices, well things get a lot more complex.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #730 on: August 24, 2019, 08:48:21 pm »
Quote from: wilber on August 24, 2019, 06:14:20 pm
If you support it for any reason, you have to support it for every reason.

Why?
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« Reply #731 on: August 24, 2019, 08:54:16 pm »
Quote from: Poonlight Graham on August 24, 2019, 08:46:54 pm
Really?  "My health is in jeopardy" is as ethical a choice to kill the unborn as "i don't want a girl/boy"?

I believe that women should able to control their own bodies, but when that body is connected to another body that was created through the woman's own willful choices, well things get a lot more complex.

Do you think only women whose health is in jeopardy should be allowed to have abortions?  It's one view on the issue, but not one I suscribe to.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #732 on: August 24, 2019, 08:59:30 pm »
Quote from: Poonlight Graham on August 24, 2019, 08:46:54 pm
Really?  "My health is in jeopardy" is as ethical a choice to kill the unborn as "i don't want a girl/boy"?

I believe that women should able to control their own bodies, but when that body is connected to another body that was created through the woman's own willful choices, well things get a lot more complex.

"the woman's own wilful choices"? It takes two to tango and you just contradicted yourself. Next...
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #733 on: August 24, 2019, 09:02:51 pm »
Quote from: bcsapper on August 24, 2019, 08:54:16 pm
Do you think only women whose health is in jeopardy should be allowed to have abortions?  It's one view on the issue, but not one I subscribe to.

No, I think there's a variety of reasons where abortions are ethical.  But i don't want to this thread to become an abortion debate.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #734 on: August 24, 2019, 09:06:19 pm »
Quote from: Omni on August 24, 2019, 08:59:30 pm
"the woman's own wilful choices"? It takes two to tango...

Yes, it also takes the choices of two to create a baby, unless the woman is ****.

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