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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #675 on: August 23, 2019, 01:07:48 pm »
“What do you think of blacks marrying whites”?

“Well...   it’s the law of the land, I guess...   we don’t plan on changing it back”

I’m a racist bigot, but I will follow the law...    that’s an awesome stance.

I’m a homophobic bigot, but I will follow the law.

Not exactly PM material.

It's exactly the same stance Harper had.
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« Reply #676 on: August 23, 2019, 01:12:26 pm »
I also expect my PM and anyone in government to actually be actively in favour of human rights, not just put up with them because they have to.   Being a bigot excludes you from holding office, in my opinion, so I like to know what their personal views actually are.

Who says he isn't in favour of human rights? Everyone has the right to believe whatever they want as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others. I'm not a fan of abortion but that doesn't stop me from being pro choice.
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« Reply #677 on: August 23, 2019, 01:23:08 pm »
No, what he thinks now matters.  I don’t want a bigot as the PM even if he doesn’t govern like a bigot.  (As if that type of personal view wouldn’t influence your governing).

Did Harper's personal anti-gay marriage stance influence his governing?

I'd much prefer a PM who was pro gay marriage in his personal views.

I don't want a religious homophobe as the PM, or a lying bully crook virtue signaler as PM, or an inept fool Sikh terrorist sympathizer, or a reality-deprived spend-o-rama socialist (May), or a separatist, or a racist hot-head.  So pick your poison.
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« Reply #678 on: August 23, 2019, 01:27:35 pm »
Not only gay marriage but I'd be concerned we would see the abortion issue on the table again.

The abortion issue has been settled by the Supreme Court a very long time ago.  It would also be political suicide.
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« Reply #679 on: August 23, 2019, 01:37:13 pm »
Who says he isn't in favour of human rights? Everyone has the right to believe whatever they want as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others. I'm not a fan of abortion but that doesn't stop me from being pro choice.

You think Scheer is pro-choice and in favour of gay marriage?  Please provide a cite.

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« Reply #680 on: August 23, 2019, 01:38:50 pm »
Scheer needs to address this but it was 15 years ago. Has no one here had their views change and evolve over time? I know mine have, including on the question of gay relationships.

2005 was not 1960.

I also note his opposition is based on inability to commit to the "natural procreation of children". I assume then he opposes any any marriage of heterosexual couples that are unable to conceive due to health related issues.

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« Reply #681 on: August 23, 2019, 01:41:48 pm »
Did Harper's personal anti-gay marriage stance influence his governing?

I'd much prefer a PM who was pro gay marriage in his personal views.


You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth with respect to Scheer.   

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I don't want a religious homophobe as the PM, or a lying bully crook virtue signaler as PM, or an inept fool Sikh terrorist sympathizer, or a reality-deprived spend-o-rama socialist (May), or a separatist, or a racist hot-head.  So pick your poison.


Sikh terrorist sympathizer?  That’s really stupid.  It’s an alt-right, racist talking point.  You keep showing that you’re a conspiracy theory nutjob. Stop repeating the stupid crap you read on the interwebs.
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« Reply #682 on: August 23, 2019, 01:43:15 pm »

I don't want a religious homophobe as the PM, or a lying bully crook virtue signaler as PM, or an inept fool Sikh terrorist sympathizer, or a reality-deprived spend-o-rama socialist (May), or a separatist, or a racist hot-head.  So pick your poison.

Wow, you are in a dark place.

I do note you believe all but the reality-deprived spend-o-rama socialist are obvious to all.

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« Reply #683 on: August 23, 2019, 01:44:42 pm »
The abortion issue has been settled by the Supreme Court a very long time ago.  It would also be political suicide.

Brian Mulroney and the cons. tried to enact a new law in 1989 and after two women died from botched abortions they finally backed off and left it to a woman and her doctor.

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« Reply #684 on: August 23, 2019, 02:01:47 pm »
You think Scheer is pro-choice and in favour of gay marriage?  Please provide a cite.

He doesn’t have to be either personally, he just can’t bring it to Government.
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« Reply #685 on: August 23, 2019, 02:26:24 pm »
You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth with respect to Scheer.   


Sikh terrorist sympathizer?  That’s really stupid.  It’s an alt-right, racist talking point.  You keep showing that you’re a conspiracy theory nutjob. Stop repeating the stupid crap you read on the interwebs.

Could be wrong but I think he is just trying to point out there are reasons for rejecting them all, depending on your point of view.

I don't know how I will vote yet, the debates will be important. Trouble is I might be out of the country with very limited internet access while they are in progress. Hope not.
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« Reply #686 on: August 23, 2019, 03:30:20 pm »
He doesn’t have to be either personally, he just can’t bring it to Government.

You would support a bigot as long as they don’t govern that way?   What about a racist?   Antisemite?

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« Reply #687 on: August 23, 2019, 03:51:21 pm »
You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth with respect to Scheer.

No I'm certainly not.  My point, which you failed to understand, is that there are major flaws in the all the party leaders.  They're all nutjobs, so pick the nut that leaves the least sour taste in your mouth.
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« Reply #688 on: August 23, 2019, 03:56:02 pm »
I think he needs to reply to the gay marriage statements.  They were made in 2005 - 14 years ago.  Perhaps he has softened his views.
I don't want a religious homophobe as the PM

no - per the following linked 2016 vid, weakSauce has absolutely not changed/"softened" his views. Hey PG... weak Andy is exactly that - the religious homophobe you state you don't want as the PM!

guys, guys - cause it's Scheer in 2016! Hey member Boges, is this your evolution of Scheer... is this, as you say, the new "Now"? Hey member wilber, still your stated double standard - still?

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #689 on: August 23, 2019, 03:56:35 pm »
Sikh terrorist sympathizer?  That’s really stupid.  It’s an alt-right, racist talking point.  You keep showing that you’re a conspiracy theory nutjob. Stop repeating the stupid crap you read on the interwebs.

Yes those conspiracy nuts jobs at the Globe and Mail & CBC! Yes, stop reading stupid quotes that come out of Singh's own mouth!  I'm so racist for calling a terrorist sympathizer a terrorist sympathizer!  ::)

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-strange-loyalties-of-jagmeet-singh/
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Globe & Mail: When the CBC’s Terry Milewski pressed him hard on his views of the 1985 Air India bombing – the worst terrorist attack in Canadian history – Mr. Singh refused to blame the bombing on Sikh extremists. “I don’t know who was responsible,” he said. Mr. Milewski was accused by some of a touch of racism for even raising the matter. No unturbanned politician would have had to endure such a grilling, the critics charged.  But Mr. Milewski was right to ask."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/jagmeet-singh-1.4576838
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Jagmeet Singh keeps getting asked about Sikh extremism because he won't give an answer: Robyn Urback

Singh appears not to have grasped that distinction yet, as evidenced by his inability to clarify his position on Khalistani extremism, which is made up of radical elements of the Sikh separatist movement. Months ago, when interviewed by CBC's Terry Milewski following the NDP leadership convention, Singh failed to denounce the glorification of Talwinder Singh Parmar, for example in posters displayed outside Sikh temples and other public places. Parmar is widely seen as the mastermind behind the 1985 Air India bombing that killed 329 people.

"I don't know who was responsible, but I think we need to find out who's truly responsible," Singh said about the terrorist attack, as if some great mystery still endures.

Many characterized the line of questioning as unfair — racist, even — arguing that Singh was being asked questions about Sikh extremism simply because he is a Sikh himself.  But Singh was being asked about Sikh extremism because he has involved himself in Sikh causes, including speaking out in the Ontario legislature against the death penalty for Balwant Singh Rajoana, a member of a Sikh terrorist group that conspired to kill a Punjabi politician.

This week, the Globe and Mail reported that Singh spoke at a Sikh separatist rally in 2015 that included a large poster of extremist leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. Bhindranwale was and is perceived by many as a pioneer of the Khalistan movement, but he is also seen as an unrepentant terrorist whose followers stormed public spaces (eventually, the Golden Temple) to assassinate opponents.
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