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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #555 on: July 12, 2019, 09:53:25 pm »
See a voluntary 'conversion-therapy' graduate in action:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/chris-vanderweide-pride-1.5192540

Looks like conversion therapy created a violent homophobe. ill think it's a good idea?

1. There's no evidence in your article he's a 'conversion-therapy' graduate
2. There's no research linking 'conversion-therapy' graduates to violence.  That's like saying a few Muslims cause violence so we should ban Ramadan because it causes violence.
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« Reply #556 on: July 13, 2019, 11:26:21 am »
1. There's no evidence in your article he's a 'conversion-therapy' graduate
2. There's no research linking 'conversion-therapy' graduates to violence.  That's like saying a few Muslims cause violence so we should ban Ramadan because it causes violence.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about that: The evidence was on his FB page, now closed so I can't prove it.
He said his church and Jesus saved him from those 'tendencies'.

Strangely, he also said that his newborn daughter "changed his life forever" ... and 2 months later he's smashing peoples' faces in (because they're gay), and going to jail ... where he was immediately beat up, and will have to do his time is solitary/protective custody.
Bizarre, violent young man.
And the other Christian homophobes attacking Pride Fest bear the same violent hatred of gays.
I expected the violence to come from the leather-and-tattoos neoNazis, but they were not the violent ones that day.
It was the ones with the religious signs and loud rants at the "sinners".  Homophobia is a hatred by itself, maybe not always connected to racial or other hatreds.

There may presently be "no research" to say that conversion therapy produces violent bigots (I haven't looked thoroughly), but plenty of evidence of maladjustment (compared to non-converted LGBTQ people).
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181108130522.htm
 
There is some evidence that repressed homosexuality is present in homophobia and anti-gay bullying, especially for those from authoritarian homes.

Those participants who reported their heterosexuality despite having hidden same-sex desires were also the most likely to show hostility toward gay individuals, including self-reported anti-gay attitudes, endorsement of anti-gay policies and discrimination such as supporting harsher punishments for homosexuals.

The research may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes, the researchers note. People in denial about their own sexual orientation, perhaps a denial fostered by authoritarian and homophobic parents, may feel a threat from other gay and lesbian individuals. Lashing out may ultimately be an indicator of the person's own internal conflict with sexual orientation.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/

I don't want to derail this Scheer thread with this topic. Though related, it would be better to continue this discussion here:
https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/manitoba-politics/hamilton-pride-police-shame/?message=50838

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« Reply #557 on: July 20, 2019, 12:58:40 am »
weakSauce Scheer panders to dairy industry/lobby - so anti-science Andy!

Quote from: CPC leader Andrew Scheer
The {new version} Canada Food Guide seems to be ideologically driven by people who have a philosophical perspective and a bias against certain types of healthy food products.

I truly do believe that chocolate milk saved my son's life.


Health experts denounce Scheer’s comments on Canada’s Food Guide as ‘irresponsible’ and ‘disingenuous’

Andrew Scheer shouldn’t play politics with Canada’s Food Guide


and... Health Canada is proposing to require all foods that have high sodium, sugar and/or saturated fat content to include warning labels about those items on the customer-facing side of their packaging. So, of course to ensure Canadians aren't informed, Scheer also vowed never to force food manufacturers to have front-of-package labeling on their products, stating:

Quote from: CPC leader Andrew Scheer
I can make all those decisions myself. I don't need the government to come along and put a big red sticker on something just because somebody in an office thought that I shouldn't be eating that

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #558 on: July 20, 2019, 11:00:23 am »
Almost everyone loves milk.  Scheer's a milk populist.
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« Reply #559 on: July 20, 2019, 01:47:35 pm »
Almost everyone loves milk.  Scheer's a milk populist.

He is drinking white milk, that makes him a racist.

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« Reply #560 on: July 20, 2019, 01:52:32 pm »
I hate white milk. Gives me heartburn. It's not good for grownups.

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« Reply #561 on: July 20, 2019, 02:12:39 pm »
I hate white milk. Gives me heartburn. It's not good for grownups.

It's good for most grown-ups, not good for some grown-ups.

Maybe Scheer should have pandered instead to the cookie vote.  Everyone loves cookies.  Except for diabetics.  Hmm so maybe throw his support behind milk and cookies, everyone likes at least one of those.
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« Reply #562 on: July 20, 2019, 06:23:06 pm »
guys, guys... have you become so conditioned to the CPC anti-science branding that something like Scheer's words/actions concerning the Canada Food Guide no longer warrants critique - say it ain't so!

obviously Scheer is forever beholden to the dairy industry/lobby that actually got him elected leader as he smote Bernier down in that... 13th round of voting! So, of course, weakSauce Andy delivers for them!



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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #563 on: July 20, 2019, 08:22:57 pm »
I don't care about this issue and that makes me think others don't either.
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« Reply #564 on: July 20, 2019, 09:20:11 pm »
U don't care about this issue and that makes me think others don't either.

you talkin' to me? Cause if you are... why say such a stoopid thing? I brought the issue forward, have commented on it several times now... and provided links to 2 articles that include criticism of Scheer's mind-numbing comments, his anti-science play and his pandering. But hey, your drive-by slag is certainly contributing, hey!
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« Reply #565 on: July 20, 2019, 11:51:12 pm »
Quote from: Kate Comeau, a dietitian and spokesperson for Dietitians of Canada
{While the food guide got rid of dairy as a separate food group, and instead combined it with protein-rich foods, it still treats dairy similarly to the way it has before.} The reason that dietitians recognize dairy as an important food is because it’s an “easy source of calcium” for many Canadians, which is readily available and fairly inexpensive; however, Health Canada wanted to recognize that many people get the nutrients that are in milk from other, non-dairy sources.

This food guide... recognizes that there are other foods that we all eat differently based on our culture, our taste, our preferences and so for some people they get all of the calcium they need because they eat tofu every day, and they eat broccoli, and bok choy, and leafy greens vegetables and they eat almonds and so for them they don’t need calcium from another source.

hey MH, fwiw... as lame-azzed as your drive-by was, at least it's a step-up from squiggy's dumb-tagging!  ;D

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #566 on: July 22, 2019, 06:50:24 am »
you talkin' to me? Cause if you are... why say such a stoopid thing? I brought the issue forward, have commented on it several times now... and provided links to 2 articles that include criticism of Scheer's mind-numbing comments, his anti-science play and his pandering. But hey, your drive-by slag is certainly contributing, hey!

Nope.  Should be 'I don't care...'

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« Reply #567 on: July 22, 2019, 06:14:55 pm »
weakSauce Andy/lil' Hamish don't like the return of Gerald Butts - not at all!  ;D


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« Reply #568 on: July 25, 2019, 11:23:40 am »
Quote from: CPC leader Andrew Scheer
There is absolutely no room in a peaceful and free country like Canada for intolerance, racism and extremism of any kind. And the Conservative Party of Canada will always make that absolutely clear.

I find the notion that one's race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation would make anyone in any way superior or inferior to anyone else absolutely repugnant. And if there's anyone who disagrees with that, there's the door. You are not welcome here.

wait, what? Per National Post sources:

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{Ghada Melek} running for the federal Conservatives in a Toronto-area riding was rejected as a candidate by the party’s own Ontario wing more than two years ago over social-media posts about Muslim extremism.

Melek, a Coptic Christian immigrant from Egypt, said the Twitter posts — which date from 2013 and 2014 — were an emotional response to mass protests against her native country’s then-president, Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated Mohammed Morsi.

“As a Coptic Christian, I know what my family and friends often endured under Morsi and the Brotherhood, and that passion may have got the best of me at times,” she said in a statement. “While these are almost entirely retweets from more than half a decade ago, I do understand how some of them may be offensive, and I do regret that as well as retweeting them. I will always stand with Muslim Canadians.”

Conservative leader Andrew Scheer’s press secretary could not be reached for comment.


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« Reply #569 on: August 04, 2019, 06:47:15 pm »
c'mon Andy - you made a bold statement - do the right thing weakSauce; do the right thing!

Quote from: CPC leader Andrew Scheer
There is absolutely no room in a peaceful and free country like Canada for intolerance, racism and extremism of any kind. And the Conservative Party of Canada will always make that absolutely clear.

I find the notion that one's race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation would make anyone in any way superior or inferior to anyone else absolutely repugnant. And if there's anyone who disagrees with that, there's the door. You are not welcome here.

wait, what? Per National Post sources:

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{Ghada Melek} running for the federal Conservatives in a Toronto-area riding was rejected as a candidate by the party’s own Ontario wing more than two years ago over social-media posts about Muslim extremism.



further info/detail in regards that internal Ontario Progressive Conservative report - now linking the Scheer/CPC candidate to a homophobic past: