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Offline Boges

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #480 on: June 26, 2019, 12:33:39 pm »
problem with poll-tracker is it includes the garbage results from the likes of Angus-Reid & Leger... closed-shop results that, again, are not a random reflection of the public (albeit Grenier does give them a lesser weighting factor). The latest Forum poll (as it is... just landlines called) is another reflection on the diminishing impact of the "LavScam" you mentioned... back in the throes of when "Jody" reigned supreme (aided & abetted by a compliant media), Forum regularly had poll results like CPC 42/Lib 29... their latest results now show a 4-5 point difference.

Sure, but that could also be because of lower interests because it's almost July. It's hard to be in perpetual outrage about anything for 9 months. Doesn't mean the public isn't going to be reminded about what happened come Labour Day.

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« Reply #481 on: June 26, 2019, 12:51:38 pm »
Sure, but that could also be because of lower interests because it's almost July. It's hard to be in perpetual outrage about anything for 9 months. Doesn't mean the public isn't going to be reminded about what happened come Labour Day.

no worries! The CPC/lil' Hamish war room is on it - resurrecting past glories; even got the band back together again... can't find it right now... does the nice IndianMan once again finish with "nice hair"?  ;D

but ya, there will be little "high road" taken by any party

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« Reply #482 on: June 26, 2019, 01:40:04 pm »
So I guess JT's re-election tactic will be to lie to the public.

Adopting CPC practices - how quaint.

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« Reply #483 on: June 26, 2019, 01:43:03 pm »
The polls don't mean a lot right now because of strategic voting, as seen in the last 2 federal elections.
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Funny is Trudeau's strong emphasis on the dangers of climate change and all these floods and forest fires i'm sure can only help the Greens.

His emphasis on environmental concerns did drive a lot of strategic voting in 2015 when Green votes went to the Liberals.

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« Reply #484 on: June 28, 2019, 12:03:20 am »
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« Reply #485 on: July 05, 2019, 11:25:28 am »
Michael Coren - June 30, 2019

Calling out Andrew Scheer's religious extremism --- With an election on the way it needs to be asked whether the man who wants to be prime minister really does believe that LGBTQ people are disordered and immoral

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Scheer will never state his genuine reasons for boycotting what has become a most important symbol of inclusion in contemporary Canada {pride parades}, because he doesn't want to be labelled a religious extremist.

But the reality is that Scheer's conservative Roman Catholic views inform most of his ideas on issues of life and sexuality.
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The issue is one of interpretation, but Scheer is on the orthodox right of his church. This is why he voted against equal marriage when Catholic prime minister Paul Martin led the campaign to introduce it in 2005.

The same applies to Scheer’s approach to abortion and to assisted dying, both considered anathema by the church.

Indeed, when the anti-choice organization RightNow heard of Scheer’s surprise victory in the Conservative leadership race, they celebrated with a thank you in their newsletter to all the volunteers "who worked tirelessly selling memberships."

They knew the man, knew his father (the Catholic deacon), knew that he voted against Bill C-16, which added "gender expression or identity" as a protection in the Canadian Human Rights Act – and knew that in Saskatchewan where he is MP for Regina-Qu’Appelle, opposition to abortion and LGBTQ rights is acceptable.

So Scheer obfuscates and pretends.
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With an election on the way, Scheer has tried to paint himself as more of a moderate. It remains to be seen whether journalists will ask whether the man who wants to be prime minister really does believe that LGBTQ people are disordered and immoral, and whether he does think that a woman’s right to choose is akin to murder.

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« Reply #486 on: July 05, 2019, 11:55:29 am »

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« Reply #487 on: July 05, 2019, 12:01:43 pm »
Michael Coren - June 30, 2019

Calling out Andrew Scheer's religious extremism --- With an election on the way it needs to be asked whether the man who wants to be prime minister really does believe that LGBTQ people are disordered and immoral

We'll be heading down the road of abortion rights debate once again regardless of Scheer's most recent comments saying he won't open it. As soon as he won the leadership of the PC party he immediately tried to hide comments saying the exact opposite. He will simply pass the buck and it will come up as a motion from an MP or a bill from a backbencher and the game will be on.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #488 on: July 05, 2019, 12:42:31 pm »


Selective polling #'s like Trump I see.

CBC aggregated poll tracker of all polls updated July 3 shows CPC up by 4%:  https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/
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« Reply #489 on: July 05, 2019, 01:25:55 pm »
We'll be heading down the road of abortion rights debate once again regardless of Scheer's most recent comments saying he won't open it. As soon as he won the leadership of the PC party he immediately tried to hide comments saying the exact opposite. He will simply pass the buck and it will come up as a motion from an MP or a bill from a backbencher and the game will be on.

What comments did he try and hide?

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« Reply #490 on: July 05, 2019, 01:28:51 pm »
We'll be heading down the road of abortion rights debate once again regardless of Scheer's most recent comments saying he won't open it. As soon as he won the leadership of the PC party he immediately tried to hide comments saying the exact opposite. He will simply pass the buck and it will come up as a motion from an MP or a bill from a backbencher and the game will be on.

I mean it could happen.  I doubt it though.  The CPC would be voted out at the very next election and the laws reversed.
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« Reply #491 on: July 05, 2019, 01:38:39 pm »
What comments did he try and hide?

The ones were he said he fully supported the concept that CPC members should be allowed to re open the debate on abortion. It helped him to win the party leadership but he seemed to know as well it wouldn't be a very acceptable plank in his platform the the PM race.

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« Reply #492 on: July 05, 2019, 02:50:29 pm »
The ones were he said he fully supported the concept that CPC members should be allowed to re open the debate on abortion. It helped him to win the party leadership but he seemed to know as well it wouldn't be a very acceptable plank in his platform the the PM race.

Is there a cite?
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« Reply #493 on: July 05, 2019, 03:02:06 pm »
Is there a cite?

 When he sought the leadership of the Conservative Party, Andrew Scheer courted anti-abortion supporters by noting his history of voting in favour of anti-abortion legislation and promising he would allow free votes on the issue by MPs in Parliament.

In a 2017 “Statement on Life Issues” published by his leadership campaign, Scheer said, “I have always voted in favour of pro-life legislation."

He also said wanted Parliament to reconsider a bill making it a criminal offence to harm a fetus whose mother is assaulted or killed.

 “I believe 100% that Members of Parliament have the right to bring forward and debate any legislation of importance to them….Moreover, I have committed that all votes on matters of conscience be free votes.”



The Conservative leader has repeatedly said, if elected, his government would not enact an abortion law. But he has faced criticism from the governing Liberals for not saying whether he would let his MPs bring motions or private members bills that restrict abortion rights.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/scheer-not-backing-down-from-anti-abortion-past-but-says-he-won-t-reopen-abortion-debate-1.4433411

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« Reply #494 on: July 05, 2019, 03:18:37 pm »
When he sought the leadership of the Conservative Party, Andrew Scheer courted anti-abortion supporters by noting his history of voting in favour of anti-abortion legislation and promising he would allow free votes on the issue by MPs in Parliament.

In a 2017 “Statement on Life Issues” published by his leadership campaign, Scheer said, “I have always voted in favour of pro-life legislation."

He also said wanted Parliament to reconsider a bill making it a criminal offence to harm a fetus whose mother is assaulted or killed.

 “I believe 100% that Members of Parliament have the right to bring forward and debate any legislation of importance to them….Moreover, I have committed that all votes on matters of conscience be free votes.”



The Conservative leader has repeatedly said, if elected, his government would not enact an abortion law. But he has faced criticism from the governing Liberals for not saying whether he would let his MPs bring motions or private members bills that restrict abortion rights.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/scheer-not-backing-down-from-anti-abortion-past-but-says-he-won-t-reopen-abortion-debate-1.4433411

Sounds pretty wishy-washy...

But, if in government,  I hope he does, or his backbenchers do, because that bunch will go the way of the dodo bird if they tried.