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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #300 on: May 12, 2019, 11:22:54 am »
Again ignoring the juvenile taunts from Waldo as to both myself or Sheer or anyone else he disagrees with the issue as to concerns as to funding UNWRA because of its close ties to Hamas is there for all to consider and deals with a larger issue of concern.

In fact Prof. Lorenzo Vidino, an expert on Islamism in Europe and North America, at George Washington University testified to the Canadian Senate in May 2015 stated that the Muslim Brotherhood alone had some eight to ten major front groups in Canada including:

1-the National Council of Canadian Muslims NCCM (formerly CAIR CAN)
2-the Muslim Association of Canada
3-Islamic Relief Canada
4-the International Relief Fund for the Afflicted and Needy (IRFAN) (note: the Government of Canada has listed IRFAN as a terrorist entity as it did millions of dollars of fund raising for Hamas)

There are also Islamist front groups operating in Canada which have a partner organization in the U.S., for example, NCCM/CAIR CAN is the Canadian Chapter of CAIR USA.  Islamic Relief Canada and Islamic Relief USA are both part of Islamic Relief International.  ISNA Canada and ISNA USA are partner agencies.

CAIR USA has already been listed as a terrorist entity by the United Arab Emirates. 

Islamic Relief International is also listed while both Islamic Relief Canada and Islamic Relief USA have  been found to have ties to Hamas.

ISNA Canada operated with  three different charities that lost their status for terrorism funding. 

ISNA USA by the way  was found to be an unindicted co-conspirator in a major terrorism funding trial and has been connected to CAIR USA and Hamas.

Further details can be found at:

https://www.newdelhitimes.com/are-democratic-countries-like-canada-funding-terrorism/

Funding of extreme terrorists through fronts or organizations like UNWRA  are a real concern and should not be used for partisan exercises of name calling.

I have finished my clarification and will now stop as I see Waldo is using it now as an excuse not to discuss the actual issue but try engage me personally and I do not wish to dominate or respond to him just the issue.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #301 on: May 12, 2019, 05:19:01 pm »
Again ignoring the juvenile taunts from Waldo as to both myself or Sheer or anyone else he disagrees with the issue as to concerns as to funding UNWRA because of its close ties to Hamas is there for all to consider and deals with a larger issue of concern.

Funding of extreme terrorists through fronts or organizations like UNWRA  are a real concern and should not be used for partisan exercises of name calling.

I have finished my clarification and will now stop as I see Waldo is using it now as an excuse not to discuss the actual issue but try engage me personally and I do not wish to dominate or respond to him just the issue.

nice deflection attempt, hey Rue! The, as you say, "actual issue" is that you're unable to counter the following references to regulation and oversight:

if you'd like to attempt to counter this Government of Canada position statement with something other than your standard/typical unsubstantiated statements, please do... waiting, waiting, waiting (for RuePigsToFly)!



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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #302 on: May 13, 2019, 03:23:03 pm »

source:https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/groups-concern-unrwa-boosts-funding-palestinians

"However, Hillel Neuer, executive-director of UN Watch, a Geneva-based watchdog group, said “UN Watch is gravely concerned that Canada is yet again handing UNRWA millions of taxpayer dollars to fund teachers who endorse Hitler and advocate the murder of Jews.
“Despite a detailed report that I presented at Parliament in April, identifying 60 more UNRWA employees who preach anti-Semitism and jihadi terrorism, neither the Trudeau government nor UNRWA has informed us of a single UNRWA teacher who has been fired as a result. This calls into question Canada’s claim, when it announced its original $25-million funding in November, that UNRWA has a policy of ‘zero tolerance.’
“The government’s new announcement that UNRWA will be hiring a ‘neutrality co-ordinator’ is of little use so long as UNRWA sends the message that preachers of anti-Semitic hate and terror are welcome to teach before classrooms of vulnerable children.”

also

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11783/unrwa-creates-palestinian-refugees

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #303 on: May 13, 2019, 06:42:55 pm »
 ;D notwithstanding the datedness of your sources, those are quite the neutral independent pro-Israeli references you have there, hey member Rue! Oh my - isn't UN Watch the organization that gave Jason Kenney a 'Moral Courage Award'... that intends to give it's 2019 Moral Courage Award to Stephen Harper? C'mon... still waiting for you to counter the regulation/oversight the current Canadian government has put in place in regards UNRWA funding - still waiting!

here's a lil' more detail for ya - you're welcome



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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #304 on: May 14, 2019, 12:28:39 pm »
You have provided repeat examples of how Canada expects UNWRA to do its own policing. Nothing in what you provided shows Canada or Canadians doing anything.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #305 on: May 14, 2019, 04:10:40 pm »
You have provided repeat examples of how Canada expects UNWRA to do its own policing. Nothing in what you provided shows Canada or Canadians doing anything.

other than your dated pro-Israeli references... you have provided nothing. Try putting forward something timely, independent and unbiased to directly challenge/counter the regulations and oversight that exists. Here, have another helping - you're welcome!


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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #306 on: May 16, 2019, 07:04:50 am »
In regards to the current  Liberal government’s funding of UNWRA I responded that UNWRA has proven itself to be an agent of and supporter of Hamas and other terror cells and therefore lost any credibility .

A well known Liberal partisan then produced government memos  in defence of Trudeau's position to fund UNWRA claiming Canada has placed safeguards on the donations it will now give UNWRA so they are not used for terrorist purposes.

The memo suggests UNWRA will police itself and it does  make references to twice a year reviews of UNWRA  by someone not specified, with no specifics as to how this would  or will be done or how that will be reported.

Imagine if I said the Canadian government will  give  drug addicts money to treat their heroin addiction and leave it to these drug addicts  how to decide what to do with that money and we will check in on them twice a year to see how they are doing but we are not sure who will be doing those twice a year reviews, how they will do them or if they will ever get done because there are no public procedures to guarantee these reviews.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #307 on: May 16, 2019, 09:32:40 am »
A well known Liberal partisan then produced government memos  in defence of Trudeau's position to fund UNWRA claiming Canada has placed safeguards on the donations it will now give UNWRA so they are not used for terrorist purposes.

the board's well known PM Trudeau hater and anti-Liberal partisan produced nothing to counter the regulation/oversight put in place to monitor funding... nothing... other than dated highly partisan pro-Israeli references! Of course the stooge, weakSauce Andy, took up the same position as Harper - but also hasn't produced anything either
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #308 on: May 17, 2019, 04:25:35 pm »
Apparently Scheer thinks he's going to resurrect a West-East "infrastructure corridor" ie, pipeline.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-economic-address-energy-corridor-1.5138649
Scheer ... floated a new policy proposal — a dedicated, coast-to-coast right-of-way specifically set aside for energy infrastructure projects like pipelines and new hydroelectric projects.

Didn't anybody tell him that Energy East got a very fast thumbs down from hundreds of First Nations and other Canadian communities in its path?
And BC has certainly not agreed to any more oil pipelines to the coast.
Just plain silly.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #309 on: May 17, 2019, 04:39:09 pm »
a dedicated, coast-to-coast right-of-way

Sounds easy, I will magic into being.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #310 on: May 18, 2019, 12:26:24 am »
Apparently Scheer thinks he's going to resurrect a West-East "infrastructure corridor" ie, pipeline.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-economic-address-energy-corridor-1.5138649
Scheer ... floated a new policy proposal — a dedicated, coast-to-coast right-of-way specifically set aside for energy infrastructure projects like pipelines and new hydroelectric projects.

Didn't anybody tell him that Energy East got a very fast thumbs down from hundreds of First Nations and other Canadian communities in its path?
And BC has certainly not agreed to any more oil pipelines to the coast.
Just plain silly.

fortunately those people only get to decide if we let them, luckily you're completely off of oil and other hydrocarbons and simply dont need it, right?  Or perhaps you're the sort of hypocrite who prefers to get their oil from countries with low human rights standards who also dont give a **** about the environment, but no, you wouldnt want to be that sort.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #311 on: May 18, 2019, 01:09:07 am »
fortunately those people only get to decide if we let them,
Apparently oil companies do listen when people speak up.
“There were municipalities in my riding that had passed municipal resolutions in opposition to it, even before there was a process.
...
“First, it's quite difficult to go through that process without a real social acceptability,” he said in an interview. “If you have farmers, citizens, mayors against the project, it’s going to be tough.


Scheer knows his 'infrastructure corridor is a non-starter. Not a chance of approval from communities right across the country. It's just a really stupid idea.
Will his voters fall for it? 

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #312 on: May 26, 2019, 12:48:26 am »
Scheer's industry infrastructure corridor with "Pre-approved status"
[Pre-approved status
Without specifying geography, cost, or timeline, Scheer said he believes there's a will among different provinces to find a way to agree to create a route that will move Canada's natural resources across the country through an area where there will be a kind of pre-approved status that would provide the kind certainty that the private sector craves.

That included increasing refining capacity in New Brunswick, exporting hydroelectricity in Quebec and Manitoba, and shipping oil and gas to tidewater and to eastern Canada from Alberta.

"I'm optimistic. I believe there's a recognition of the need for it," Scheer said.

"Obviously it's going to take a lot of work to find the right balance between Indigenous concerns and environmental concerns and any provincial issues. There may be a lot of private property concerns for any individuals who may be living along the proposed route.[/i]

People who might just happen to be living along the proposed corridor. Lol

Can we take a vote?
Who wants the oil corridor through your county?

Ima NO on that. Lol

We already have a bad one - through the wetlands that clean the water, draining into Lake Ontario.

I think a pipeline runs near a subway in Trot.
I really don't like the one running through the Straits of Mackinac.

No I don't think Andrew Scheer understands his country if he thinks we're interested in that.
But that's ok.
He'll find out.
Maybe Ontario will go Green.
/notkidding
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #313 on: May 26, 2019, 06:21:46 am »

He'll find out.
 

He'll find out by over-promising, by ignoring the realities of politics and the justice system and by listening to lobbyists. 
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #314 on: May 26, 2019, 08:11:42 am »
He'll find out by over-promising, by ignoring the realities of politics and the justice system and by listening to lobbyists.

I don't think Ontario is interested in Alberta's agenda anymore, certainly not in fast and deep budget cuts to balance the budget and I doubt many are interested in his "Preapproved pipeline corridor" either.

With Trudeau's popularity in the toilet, and Scheer's one-province (and screw the rest of you we're coming through!) agenda ... I think this will be a very interesting, possibly even exciting election.