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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #285 on: May 10, 2019, 02:21:27 pm »
andy wants us to get to know him, and from what I have seen, the Liberals may just have a chance. He wants to align himself with the most corrupt, criminal non-leader south of our border on missile defence?  And at the same time, point fingers at the Libs, yelling corruption charges.  Master hypocrites are Conservatives, so he is the perfect leader for this party of harper.  Not Progressive Cons but ReformCons. He has no plan, no policies, no leadership abilities or skills and not a shred of what I see as strength about him.     
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #286 on: May 10, 2019, 03:07:13 pm »
Omar  Alghabra is Trudeau's principal advisor on Hamas and the Palestinian conflict. Alghabra is pro Hamas and pro terrorist. I was at a speech of his at a Mosque in Mississauga where he openly applauded terrorism by Hamas speaking in Arabic to his audience. He is a hate monger.

Trudeau is surrounded by advisors who do not acknowledge what Hamas is. He and his mp's want to pander  to both sides of the conflict.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/trudeaus-support-for-israel-undermined-by-liberal-nominee-kang-at-calgary-a


UNWRA has been infiltrated by and is controlled by Hamas.

https://www.cfnepr.com/205640/Terrorism-and-UNRWA-1

This is why the Tories stopped funding it and no there are no checks and balances as to how the $25 million Trudeau gave it  is being spent-there are NO conditions or controls. Absolutely none. Trudeau was asked to put safeguards in place but in fact none were put in place. None exists and if someone claims they do please provide the evidence because they do not and never have. UNWRA is not accountable for how it spends its money and never has been.

https://torontosun.com/2016/11/18/trudeau-gives-your-cash-to-hamas-influenced-group/wcm/3f1e0a80-8c5e-4dcb-9504-a776f282d534

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Letters-to-the-Editor-Hamas-controls-UNRWA-584504

https://www.forbes.com/2009/01/07/gaza-hamas-unrwa-oped-cx_cr_0108rosett.html

https://www.memri.org/reports/kuwaiti-columnist%20-calls-to-stop-funding-unrwa

https://canadafreepress.com/article/unwra-is-a-racist-obscenity

https://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/2007/08/31/how-unrwa-supports-hamas/

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4928597,00.html

Trudeau did announce he condemned Hamas rocket attacks into Israel this last week and that Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish nation. I think he himself personally is not an anti semite or anti Israel and is trying to support a two state solution and sees both sides as having equal rights.

I give him personally the benefit of the doubt. I do think though he has many anti Israelis in his Liberal Party that advise him-the same element that openly ridiculed Bob Rae for being married to a Jewish wife and again I was there on the floor listening to the do not vote for Rae he is a Jew lover comments.

I believe as do most Canadians in a two state solution but I do not think any support for Hamas or the PA at this point will achieve that. Both elements will not ever recognize a Jewish state of Israel as they are now constituted and both leaders have made openly anti semitic comments and comments calling for violence to overthrow Israel which has led to the current status quo and empowering of Netanyahu's refusal to negotiate on the grounds there is no one moderate to negotiate with.

Hamas shooting in 600 missiles to Israel again proves what their agenda truly is. The war to remove Israel never ended  and continues.

For Trudeau to think UNWRA is a peaceful agent in the process is absurd,

Then again Trudeau is not alone. 50-70 Democrats want support reinstated to UNWRA by the US.




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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #287 on: May 10, 2019, 03:26:39 pm »
Omar  Alghabra is Trudeau's principal advisor on Hamas and the Palestinian conflict. Alghabra is pro Hamas and pro terrorist. I was at a speech of his at a Mosque in Mississauga where he openly applauded terrorism by Hamas speaking in Arabic to his audience. He is a hate monger.

Please provide more details, that is some allegation you are making.
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« Reply #288 on: May 11, 2019, 12:59:11 am »
Please provide more details, that is some allegation you are making.

is this just Rue being his blowhardy self... or can he back it up? Yes, quite the allegation being made by member Rue against a sitting MP... one appointed as the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Consular Affairs).
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #289 on: May 11, 2019, 01:07:00 am »
This is why the Tories stopped funding it and no there are no checks and balances as to how the $25 million Trudeau gave it  is being spent-there are NO conditions or controls. Absolutely none. Trudeau was asked to put safeguards in place but in fact none were put in place. None exists and if someone claims they do please provide the evidence because they do not and never have. UNWRA is not accountable for how it spends its money and never has been.

if you'd like to attempt to counter this Government of Canada position statement with something other than your standard/typical unsubstantiated statements, please do... waiting, waiting, waiting (for RuePigsToFly)!


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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #290 on: May 11, 2019, 10:49:32 am »
I have already submitted concerns and sources that indicate UNWRA is compromised by Hamas and stated there are no safeguards to prevent any money going to UNWRA from going to Hamas.

I note one reader now writes in claiming UNWRA polices itself so that means we can assume its not sending any funds to UNWRA.

A summary of the concerns with Trudeau’s funding by UNWRA can be found at:

“ Source: https://www.investigativeproject.org/7659/is-canada-knowingly-funding-extremism
The author, Tom Quiggin is a former military intelligence officer, a former intelligence contractor for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and a court appointed expert on jihadist terrorism in both the Federal and criminal courts of Canada.

Here are the major components of his opinion:

“Canadian taxpayer money may be finding its way to Hamas, a listed terrorist group…last Friday, Minister of International Development Marie-Claude Bibeau announced that Canada would send $50 million in the next two years to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA). This is in addition to the $110 million that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has committed to UNRWA since 2016. UNRWA has been repeatedly accused of supporting extremism, promoting violence and not checking beneficiaries against a list of known terrorists provided by the police.

The announcement made no reference to UNRWA's alleged connections, and said the money is meant to help provide education and health services to Palestinians….
In addition to funding UNRWA, the Trudeau government gave millions of taxpayers' dollars to Islamic Relief Canada. Some of this money is forwarded to Islamic Relief Worldwide (UK), which has been repeatedly linked to Hamas.

Worldwide (UK), which has been repeatedly linked to Hamas.

That's why I joined with several concerned Muslim reformists in writing to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police last week requesting an investigation. You can read the letter here.
The Canadian aid is funneled through government programs, including International Humanitarian Aid Program (2017), M103 Islamophobia Funding (2018), Canada Summer Jobs Program (2017 and 2018), Myanmar Crisis Relief Fund/Islamic Relief (May 2018), Canadian Humanitarian Assistance Fund CHAF, Canada's Humanitarian and Development Assistance to Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon, and Prime Minister Trudeau's volunteer work and promotional video for Islamic Relief Canada.

In June, MP Iqra Khalid of Mississauga announced that $23 million Canadian dollars would help fund her M103 Parliamentary Motion on "Islamophobia." The money, she said, would go to Islamic Relief Canada and a local boys and girls club.

Other members of Parliament who appear to have played a role in directing money to Islamic Relief Canada include Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Immigration and Refugees Minister Ahmed Hussen, Global Affairs Minister

Chrystia Freeland, International Development Minister Bibeau and Parliamentary Secretary Omar Alghabra.

A variety of independent and credible sources have identified Islamic Relief Worldwide as funding extremist and terrorist activities. This includes American think tank studies and international actors. The following is a partial list of statements concerning the activities of Islamic Relief International.

1. In 2014 the United Arab Emirates produced a list of organizations they deemed to be terrorist entities. Among those was Islamic Relief Worldwide and Islamic Relief UK.

2. In 2017, Bangladesh banned three organizations, including Islamic Relief, from working with Rohingya refugees fleeing Myanmar out of concern about potential radicalization in refugee camps.

3. In 2014, Israel banned Islamic Relief from operating in the occupied West Bank, accusing Islamic Relief Worldwide of being a source of funding for the Palestinian Hamas Islamist movement. That led the UK Charities Aid Foundation (CAF) to remove Islamic Relief from its online donations page. The Financial Post of Canada similarly removed Islamic Relief from a charity page "since its international arm has been banned elsewhere (though not in Canada) for allegedly funneling funds to the terrorist organization Hamas."

4. In 2015, the HSBC Bank of the United Kingdom closed Islamic Relief accounts citing fears that money could wind up with terrorist groups.

5. In 2012, the UBS cut ties with Islamic Relief due to concerns about counter-terrorist regulations.
Canada revoked the International Relief Fund for the Afflicted and Needy (IRFAN)'s charitable status in 2014 for similar Hamas support. The Islamic Society of North America in Canada has suffered four different charity revocations – two of which were for funding the Jamaat e Islami terrorist group.

What is different in this case, however, is how the money is getting directed down the path to terrorism. In the recent past, it was private citizens exploiting weaknesses in government oversight of registered charities. Now, however, it appears that Canadian MPs are using their positions to direct millions of dollars to Islamic Relief Canada. Some of this money is passed to Islamic Relief Worldwide, which is in turn passing money to extremist and terrorist groups. Given that it is generally known about Islamic Relief Worldwide's terrorism financing connections, Canadian officials appear willfully blind.

Even if they don't know better, this practice violates Canadian law and Canadian values. An investigation could determine if the money could wind up in the hands of a terrorist organization.”

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #291 on: May 11, 2019, 11:05:59 am »
 ;D surprise, surprise, surprise... the unsubstantiatingRue can't deliver the goods!

so..... you haven't countered the oversight/regulation reference concerning UNRWA funding and you haven't substantiated your allegation against Omar Alghabra - Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Consular Affairs)... your allegation that he, as you say, "is pro Hamas and pro terrorist"... that he, as you say, "openly applauded terrorism by Hamas speaking in Arabic to his audience at a Mosque in Mississauga . He is a hate monger."
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #292 on: May 11, 2019, 12:04:59 pm »
In regards to Omar Alleghbra who is now Trudeau's advisor on the Middle East:

I and many others of many faiths including Islam are very well aware of his activities in the Palestinian community in Mississauga when he was head of the Canadian Arab Federation between 2004 and 2005 and long after he left this organization which is no longer funded by the Canadian government due to its hate rhetoric. where he and I live. We had been to his public speeches openly inciting young Muslims to hate.

He has since his past days  of making openly anti semiotic remarks and supporting Hamas and Hezbllah told the Jewish community he has changed:

https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/mp-denies-allegations-he-supports-anti-israel-views

He currently says he is against terrorism and is pro a two state solution and states he does not support BDS.

Here is the point. People can go on to the internet to find out what Alleghbra supported in the past and  how he tries to distance himself from and decide whether he is born again.

Imagine if the Conservatives elected an past neo Nazi and appointed him Multicultural Minister.

What a double standard Liberals have. There is Waldo whining over Sheer being a bigot and claiming he does not know of Alleghbra's past. Such bullshit.
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« Reply #293 on: May 11, 2019, 12:19:14 pm »
is this you starting your walk-back?  ;D

hey now! Don't forget - you haven't countered the oversight/regulation reference concerning UNRWA funding
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« Reply #294 on: May 11, 2019, 12:30:55 pm »
Scheer had been on a regular daily tweet-storm - now scheerily quiet. What could it be?

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« Reply #295 on: May 11, 2019, 01:34:57 pm »
He currently says he is against terrorism and is pro a two state solution and states he does not support BDS.
BDS should not be included in that list. It does not arise from anti-Semitism but from disgust with Israel's actions. As a matter of freedom of thought and expression, we are free to criticize and boycott Israel without being accused of anti-Semitism.

 is . Suppressing BDS is suppressing freedom of expression.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #296 on: May 12, 2019, 10:17:26 am »
BDS should not be included in that list. It does not arise from anti-Semitism but from disgust with Israel's actions. As a matter of freedom of thought and expression, we are free to criticize and boycott Israel without being accused of anti-Semitism.

 is . Suppressing BDS is suppressing freedom of expression.

You need to find out who started BDS and why. Until you do you will make comments such as the above. The issue is not about suppressing freedom of speech. If you want to support boycotts go ahead. That is not the issue and never was.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #297 on: May 12, 2019, 10:38:32 am »
The point I made about concerns for the UNWRA and Waldo's inability to respond to it  but instead try taunt me with personal remarks speaks for itself.

To call Sheer a racist for associating with certain people and then pretend not to know who Omar Alghabra is and what his views are and who he associates with is a classic example of the bullshit double standard certain Liberal partisans use on this board. They expect one standard for their own views but another for anyone else's views that don't suit their own subjective agenda.

Omar Alghabra advanced anti Jewish not just anti Israeli views for years in Mississauga and those of us living in the city from inner faith groups of Muslims-Jews-Christians were at his rallies and heard what he said and stood strongly against his hateful rhetoric and the young people he was trying to recruit through Mosques.

Today Alghabra backtracks and tries to distance himself from his past claiming he has changed.

I myself do not believe people suddenly become born again and renounce their former views. I unlike some Liberal Partisans am aware of what certain Liberal MP's continue to write in Farsi and Arabic which is far different then what they say or write to English speaking audiences.

This thread is not about me it is about the double standard the thread uses when discussing political party leaders.

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« Reply #298 on: May 12, 2019, 10:42:02 am »
BDS should not be included in that list. It does not arise from anti-Semitism but from disgust with Israel's actions. As a matter of freedom of thought and expression, we are free to criticize and boycott Israel without being accused of anti-Semitism.

awkward... for the diaspora, hey member Rue!

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For many diaspora Jews, BDS has become a symbol of evil and repository of dread, a nefarious force transforming the Israel-Palestine debate from a negotiation over the end of the occupation and the division of territory into an argument about the conflict’s older and deeper roots: the original displacement of most of the Palestinians, and, on the ruins of their conquered villages, the establishment of a Jewish state. The emergence of the BDS movement has revived old questions about the legitimacy of Zionism, how to justify the privileging of Jewish over non-Jewish rights, and why refugees can return to their homes in other conflicts but not in this one. Above all, it has underscored an awkward issue that cannot be indefinitely neglected: whether Israel, even if it were to cease its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, can be both a democracy and a Jewish state.

not to forget how this lil' diversion started:
recent weakSauce tweet complaining about the Liberal government {PM Trudeau... "He"} restoring funding to UNRWA (The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East)



seems Scheer has ignored your stated, "complexity and all sorts of context" - yes?
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« Reply #299 on: May 12, 2019, 10:50:34 am »
I myself do not believe people suddenly become born again and renounce their former views. I unlike some Liberal Partisans am aware of what certain Liberal MP's continue to write in Farsi and Arabic which is far different then what they say or write to English speaking audiences.

This thread is not about me it is about the double standard the thread uses when discussing political party leaders.

says the guy, you, who makes threads about himself!

I feel a tinge of regret having ridiculed your inability to comprehend English... albeit I did fully acknowledge, several times, that English was not your first language. What I didn't appreciate was your fluency in Farsi/Arabic!  ;D
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