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Offline waldo

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #270 on: May 04, 2019, 07:09:09 pm »
Waldo are you interested in discussing Scheer in any constructive way or are you just interested in smearing the man you obviously can't stand until October?

why so defensive, hey? Just what are YOU waiting for in your apparent pent-up want/need to, "constructively discuss" Scheer, aka weakSauce Andy? Do you need an invite, or what?  ;D
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #271 on: May 04, 2019, 07:28:07 pm »
I've been posting in this thread about weakSauce Andy.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #272 on: May 05, 2019, 11:25:08 am »
I've been posting in this thread about weakSauce Andy.

for someone, YOU, so cryin' out to discuss your boy Scheer in a, "constructive way"... this reply is all you can muster? Yeesh!
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #273 on: May 05, 2019, 11:29:08 am »
Honestly, from one article in the OP we're not going to know the whole story here.  What happens between Israel and Palestinians is complex and has al sorts of context.

recent weakSauce tweet complaining about the Liberal government {PM Trudeau... "He"} restoring funding to UNRWA (The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East)



seems Scheer has ignored your stated, "complexity and all sorts of context" - yes?

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #274 on: May 05, 2019, 01:17:01 pm »
seems Scheer has ignored your stated, "complexity and all sorts of context" - yes?

It's possible, I don't know anything about the agency.  It's also possible Trudeau's gov ignored the complexity too, if Scheer's claims have any validity.  Two different narratives, the truth could lie somewhere in the middle.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #275 on: May 05, 2019, 02:41:35 pm »
recent weakSauce tweet complaining about the Liberal government {PM Trudeau... "He"} restoring funding to UNRWA (The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East)



seems Scheer has ignored your stated, "complexity and all sorts of context" - yes?

Seems like this is  about ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas%E2%80%93UNRWA_Holocaust_dispute

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #276 on: May 05, 2019, 03:15:33 pm »
It has been a long time since I watched Question Period, but it appears to me that the Sheer Conservatives are a bunch of children. Whenever Sheer asked a question, there was respect from the entire house. When Trudeau attempted to respond, we had jeers and catcalls from the babies in blue. When Singh asked a question there was also childish banter, and my best guess as to the source is also the Sheer gang of toddlers. It is time the CPC grew up.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #277 on: May 05, 2019, 09:25:15 pm »
It has been a long time since I watched Question Period, but it appears to me that the Sheer Conservatives are a bunch of children. Whenever Sheer asked a question, there was respect from the entire house. When Trudeau attempted to respond, we had jeers and catcalls from the babies in blue. When Singh asked a question there was also childish banter, and my best guess as to the source is also the Sheer gang of toddlers. It is time the CPC grew up.

Sounds to me like question period hasn't changed a bit in the last 50 years.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #278 on: May 06, 2019, 12:11:11 am »
It's possible, I don't know anything about the agency.  It's also possible Trudeau's gov ignored the complexity too, if Scheer's claims have any validity.  Two different narratives, the truth could lie somewhere in the middle.

this is you... discussing "constructively" the actions/policy of your boy Scheer? Here I was thinking you'd step-up and make a support case for Harper's 2010 removal of funding to the UN agency... which, of course, is just what Scheer is parroting - don't ever acuse weakSauce of having an original thought!

you summarily wrap Israel/Palestine 'happenings' into a trite description you refer to as... "complexity and all sorts of context". And you won't even try to support your boy Scheer's call out of the Liberal government/PM Trudeau reinstating the funding Harper removed. Yeesh!

those Hamas ties are allegations - one side denies some of the UNRWA funding gets siphoned off by Hamas; the other side states there is irrefutable evidence. What the Liberal government did is put in place conditional funding tied to strict oversight and spending accountability of Canadian funding - that way, humanitarian aid is meeting the target needs of innocent suffering Palestinians. How's that for meeting your references for context/complexity?

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Independent Jewish Voices Canada promotes a solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict through respect for international law and human rights: "After numerous years of Canada withholding funding, we are delighted to see that the Liberal government is committed to the well-being of millions of vulnerable Palestinian refugees through the restoration of funding to UNRWA," said spokesperson Tyler Levitan.

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In regards Trump's funding cuts to UNRWA, Karen Mock, chair of the progressive Jewish group JSpace Canada, acknowledged that there are issues with UNRWA that require monitoring, intervention and resolution, but said that cutting humanitarian aid to “the most vulnerable” is “mean-spirited and will only make the cause of peace that much more elusive.”

If the U.S. wanted to improve UNRWA’s operations, Mock added, it could have done what Canada did and monitor the agency’s operations more closely.

“Instead, cutting aid makes individual Palestinians suffer, leaves the current UNRWA management intact and brings the Middle East no closer to peace,” she said.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #279 on: May 06, 2019, 12:15:43 am »
It has been a long time since I watched Question Period, but it appears to me that the Sheer Conservatives are a bunch of children. Whenever Sheer asked a question, there was respect from the entire house. When Trudeau attempted to respond, we had jeers and catcalls from the babies in blue. When Singh asked a question there was also childish banter, and my best guess as to the source is also the Sheer gang of toddlers. It is time the CPC grew up.

what the petty CPC ratphackers have stooped to in the House is purposely referring to PM Trudeau as, "the Liberal leader"... refusing to call him Prime Minister.  Should we expect anything less from a party surrounding itself with Rebel Media cast-offs and imported U.S. advisers tied to Breitbart/Trump/Koch Brothers!

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #280 on: May 07, 2019, 02:57:04 pm »
I watched about 15 minutes of Sheer's first "policy announcement" today on foreign affairs. He spent the entire time bashing Trudeau and offered zero policy. Will the rest of his "polices" be just as devoid of substance?
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #281 on: May 07, 2019, 05:13:33 pm »
I watched about 15 minutes of Sheer's first "policy announcement" today on foreign affairs. He spent the entire time bashing Trudeau and offered zero policy. Will the rest of his "polices" be just as devoid of substance?

wow! Scheer had 2 mega pronouncements... {1} a rather novel... uhhh... TrumpBlazing idea to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move Canada's embassy to Jerusalem and, {2} re-establish the Harper designed/implemented 'Office of Religious Freedom', cause that went over so well the first try. /snarc 

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #282 on: May 07, 2019, 06:45:15 pm »
I find myself agreeing with the article linked below.  The flirting with racist elements by the CPC is a big turnoff to centrist voters.  Electing Chang, instead of Scheer would have helped this.  Scheer seems to be spineless.



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It’s not good enough for Scheer to get better at dealing with the occasional flare-ups that leave him looking like the hillbilly caricature Liberals like to make of him. He needs to openly admit that the Conservatives have a problem. He needs to clearly and emphatically demonstrate that he means what he says, that his party is not open to voters who scapegoat immigrants and hold fast to the view that there are too many non-white people coming to Canada. He needs to do something about it.

He needs to show them the door and invite them to leave. Whatever numbers he’ll lose to Mad Max Bernier, he’ll pick up from more centrist voters who’ve grown weary of Trudeau’s “woke” politics, with its wardrobe of groovy socks and a photo album filled with glamour magazine spreads where a portfolio of policy accomplishments should be.

But whatever the faults that can be laid at the feet of the Liberals, it’s Andrew Scheer’s Conservatives who have the racist jackass problem. And however much they genuinely don’t want it, they’re clearly not trying hard enough to shake it.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #283 on: May 07, 2019, 11:17:50 pm »
you summarily wrap Israel/Palestine 'happenings' into a trite description you refer to as... "complexity and all sorts of context". And you won't even try to support your boy Scheer's call out of the Liberal government/PM Trudeau reinstating the funding Harper removed. Yeesh!

Well Scheer is not "my boy".  I barely know much about him or his policies yet.

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those Hamas ties are allegations - one side denies some of the UNRWA funding gets siphoned off by Hamas; the other side states there is irrefutable evidence. What the Liberal government did is put in place conditional funding tied to strict oversight and spending accountability of Canadian funding - that way, humanitarian aid is meeting the target needs of innocent suffering Palestinians. How's that for meeting your references for context/complexity?

If that's what Trudeau is doing it seems like a decent plan to me.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #284 on: May 09, 2019, 12:05:09 pm »
Can't say i was impressed with Scheer's foreign policy announcements.  Seems to be more on the Harper line, which was hit and miss, and more active militarily in the world, which we need to be careful about.

Scheer wants to move Canada's embassy to Jerusalem like Trump, which I don't agree with.

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