Khadr never took an oath either, he was born in Canada therefore his citizenship cannot be revoked.
Yes indeed. Different case than someone who came to Canada and was naturalized as a citizen as opposed to obtaining it by birth. I clearly agree with you and Mr. Graham on this issue.
So since birth Canadians can not be deported to another nation unless that nation excepts them but either way we still need to ask what to do with a Canadian who engages in terrorism overseas and then wants to come back into Canada and enjoy all the rights of his country which he was violating in another country...so I would suggest for discussion purposes:
1. the member nations of the UN need to create a convention on how we treat terrorists no different then how we came up with a convention for war and another for turture and another for refugees;
2. that convention should stipulate in the case of a birth citizen who commits terrorism overseas: I- that they are either tried and convicted in the country overseas where they committed terrorism as a domestic criminal who engaged in homicide and other criminal laws of that country incorporating principles from the terrorist convention ; and/or, II- at that country's option through an opt out clause if that country has internal concerns preventing a proper trial or incarceration a transfer of that terrorist to an international court and prison, and/or III- the terrorist is sent back to their nation of origin if that nation consents and is tried for crimes defined in the Criminal code based on this convention's guidelines incorporated into those laws.
Might I suggest the above could cover citizens with only one citizenship, dual or multiple citizenship, or birth citizenship, naturalized citizenship.
I appreciate what is holding up the above is a political inability to unify countries as to defining what constitutes terrorism. I also do not think children terrorists should be exempted but there could be more emphasis placed on rehabilitation with them then adult terrorists and segregating them from adult prisoners. I also would argue it is the height of extreme idiocy to think you can bring a terrorist back to Canada and send them to reducation school to learn to be democratic again. Then again some people think
****, serial rapists and serial killers are simply in need of counselling.
To respond to Mr. Graham, I like the concept of rotting but lets put terrorists up North where they have to build roads, or engage in other work building rural communities. If they do not want to work they have a choice, sit in a prison with no liberties. As it is in Canada people who murder are out in as little as 5 years, vote while in prison, get conjugal visits, cigarettes, and can arrange for prison sex and all the drugs they can consume. However no doubt their rights under the Charter will require they be given tanning beds.
As for Kadr the man should never have been paid a damn penny without it first being referred to the Supreme Court of Canada to decide if a person with dirty hands should be entitled to any compensation or just an apology if any... had I been a Judge and Kadr appeared before me as a basic consideration under s.718 of the Criminal Code I would have wanted to see remorse evidenced by him for what he had done before releasing him which to this day has never provided-he has never once apologized for what he did. Next had I been the Judge I would have allowed his compensation if any to be re-routed to the children of the person he killed for their future.
Then again I think our war vets who can't get proper medical follow up services for PTSD and permanent physical wounds are a far more important consideration as to just who are the victims of a war and in need of compensation than terrorists like Kadr. I would argue any compensation from acts of terror should go to the victims not the terrorist victimizers which are of course first the civilians targeted, then the first responders, i.e., soldiers, rescue workers injured or maimed responding.
What that has to do with Mr. Sheer I do not know. Yes Mr. Sheer disagreed with Trudeau's comments on bringing terrorists back and "re-educating" them, but I think that is a non partisan issue and Trudeau's attempt to monopolize it as a Liberal agenda to welcome back terrorists as victims was as stupid as his comment about understanding the underlying causes of terrorism. You murder someone, on one level in a closed room you can tell a psychotherapist why you never resolved your issues with Papa. On another level you need to be contained and quarantined from society and held responsible for your actions. Using the former to avoid the latter is bullshit.