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Offline cybercoma

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #180 on: April 24, 2019, 03:59:54 pm »
Canadians religious freedom is under attack?... Canadians are worshiping in fear? Who knew!


Sweet. I assume that means he's going to protect all of these Muslims whose mosques are routinely attacked. /s

Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #181 on: April 24, 2019, 04:02:37 pm »
Sweet. I assume that means he's going to protect all of these Muslims whose mosques are routinely attacked. /s

Wait - did I miss the Muslim one ?  WTF

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« Reply #182 on: April 24, 2019, 10:10:03 pm »
Yes, citizenship can be revoked if fraudulently obtainedIt was only proposed that dual citizens might have their Canadian citizenship revoked for tbat reason. However, that was dropped because it would be discrimination against dual citizens.Surely Canada is capable of administering justice to Canadian lawbreakers?


These people have dual citizenship and their actions have demonstrated their allegiance is not to Canada. Canada owes them nothing.
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« Reply #183 on: April 25, 2019, 08:36:33 am »
Sweet. I assume that means he's going to protect all of these Muslims whose mosques are routinely attacked. /s

He sure waffles around that ...
"But nothing required him to speak at last month’s “United We Roll” rally on Parliament Hill, whose stated purpose — to protest federal environmental policies on behalf of unemployed workers in the oil industry — may have been legitimate, but which had clearly been infiltrated by anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant elements. At the very least, he might have taken the opportunity of his appearance to denounce these views. He did not.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-why-does-andrew-scheer-find-it-so-difficult-to-say-the-right-thing

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« Reply #184 on: April 25, 2019, 10:28:13 am »
These people have dual citizenship and their actions have demonstrated their allegiance is not to Canada. Canada owes them nothing.

what happens after your favoured 'removing of Canadian citizenship'... and your presumed target deportation country refuses to accept the person in question?

Offline wilber

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« Reply #185 on: April 25, 2019, 11:31:35 am »
what happens after your favoured 'removing of Canadian citizenship'... and your presumed target deportation country refuses to accept the person in question?

They are also citizens of another country. It the country they were born in won't take them back for the same reason, why the hell should we? Perhaps people should consider this before they run off to join up with a bunch of murdering fanatics and go to war with the country that was good enough to give them the citizenship they asked for.


 
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« Reply #186 on: April 25, 2019, 12:19:05 pm »
They are also citizens of another country. It the country they were born in won't take them back for the same reason, why the hell should we? Perhaps people should consider this before they run off to join up with a bunch of murdering fanatics and go to war with the country that was good enough to give them the citizenship they asked for.

you still haven't answered the question. Effectively, you're positioning for 'stateless' persons... who you gonna call now?

Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #187 on: April 25, 2019, 01:00:25 pm »
These people have dual citizenship and their actions have demonstrated their allegiance is not to Canada. Canada owes them nothing.

Of course many who went to fight for ISIS were born in Canada, so they can be jailed forever IMO. 

Here's the oath of citizenship:

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I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.

If you revoke your allegiance to the Queen of Canada and go off to fight against her, you've fundamentally broken your oath, are a traitor, and it would be fair if they lost their citizenship.  Otherwise, just throw them in jail for the rest of their lives.

Khadr is a murderer, not to mentioned a traitor and a terrorist, and yet is walking the streets, which is interesting.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #188 on: April 25, 2019, 01:01:43 pm »
what happens after your favoured 'removing of Canadian citizenship'... and your presumed target deportation country refuses to accept the person in question?

Drop them off via parachute.
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« Reply #189 on: April 25, 2019, 01:03:29 pm »
They are also citizens of another country. It the country they were born in won't take them back for the same reason, why the hell should we? Perhaps people should consider this before they run off to join up with a bunch of murdering fanatics and go to war with the country that was good enough to give them the citizenship they asked for.

Honestly, it's better just to let them rot in a Canadian prison for the rest of their lives.  If we send them back to wherever they're from they could continue their terror plotting over there.
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« Reply #190 on: April 25, 2019, 01:22:00 pm »
If we send them back to wherever they're from...

just for shytes&giggles, care to speak to the practicality of your "sending them back"... the logistics - if possible, be a tad more serious than your earlier, "drop them off via parachute" gem!

on edit: waldo truth-telling - countering the CPC/Scheer politics of fear, Canadian government estimates suggest less than 10 persons are actually in the category of, "former ISIS fighters/sympathizers who have returned to Canada".
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #191 on: April 25, 2019, 03:03:20 pm »
Here's the oath of citizenship:
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If you revoke your allegiance to the Queen of Canada and go off to fight against her, you've fundamentally broken your oath, are a traitor, and it would be fair if they lost their citizenship.  Otherwise, just throw them in jail for the rest of their lives.

Khadr is a murderer, not to mentioned a traitor and a terrorist, and yet is walking the streets, which is interesting.

Which Khadr? When did you take your oath of citizenship?

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« Reply #192 on: April 25, 2019, 03:07:09 pm »
just for shytes&giggles, care to speak to the practicality of your "sending them back"... the logistics - if possible, be a tad more serious than your earlier, "drop them off via parachute" gem!

on edit: waldo truth-telling - countering the CPC/Scheer politics of fear, Canadian government estimates suggest less than 10 persons are actually in the category of, "former ISIS fighters/sympathizers who have returned to Canada".
Buy a ticket on the next flight of their other citizenship and send them home. We do that with people who aren't admissible to Canada every day.  The only difference is the airline wouldn't be responsible for paying for it. It would also be a hell of a lot  less expensive than years of fighting in the Canadian court system for some limp rested sentence.
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« Reply #193 on: April 25, 2019, 03:08:42 pm »
you still haven't answered the question. Effectively, you're positioning for 'stateless' persons... who you gonna call now?

A person with dual citizenship is not stateless if the country of his second citizenship revokes theirs.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #194 on: April 25, 2019, 03:09:48 pm »
for some limp rested sentence

I am not familiar with that expression.