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Offline Omni

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2019, 09:05:42 pm »
When did you stop beating your wife?

I don't have a wife, but I'll take your response as another feeble attempt at deflection.

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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2019, 08:40:46 pm »
I don't have a wife, but I'll take your response as another feeble attempt at deflection.

lol, every post you make is deflection, obfuscation, non requiters or straw men, and that's exactly what I was replying to with that comment,  your shtick never changes OGFT, it's painfully predictable.

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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2019, 08:44:13 pm »
lol, every post you make is deflection, obfuscation, non requiters or straw men, and that's exactly what I was replying to with that comment,  your shtick never changes OGFT, it's painfully predictable.

I suspect you are confused yet again.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2019, 09:02:14 pm »
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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2019, 12:10:47 am »
And of course Jagmeet Singh had the encounter with the crazy-lady at his townhall who went on a rant about Sharia and the Muslim Brotherhood. He handled that situation very effectively.

I've heard rumors that the incident was staged.  She was a plant.
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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2019, 12:13:21 am »
Agreed, the biggest thing Trudeau has going for him right now is the quality of his opposition.

At least they don't beat Women, get DUI's and punch out cab drivers. That's the leader of the NDP of Manitoba. Palliser is the worst Premier in the history of the province, but will easily get re-elected, as the alternative is much worse.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2019, 06:08:41 am »
I've heard rumors that the incident was staged.  She was a plant.

Yeah - makes no sense.  The NDP gains nothing from having a stance on conspiracy theories.  It's really a thing that can hurt/help conservatives.  The far-right nutbars are just ACHING for Scheer to condemn the Globalists. 

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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2019, 07:42:33 am »
Questioning our immigration policy?
I've yet to hear a single reasonable criticism of our immigration policy, outside of "it takes too long to process claims." There is literally no substantiated claims about over immigration. Not a single shred of evidence for it whatsoever.

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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2019, 08:21:40 am »
I've yet to hear a single reasonable criticism of our immigration policy, outside of "it takes too long to process claims." There is literally no substantiated claims about over immigration. Not a single shred of evidence for it whatsoever.

Of course this is nonsense, but you're entitled to your opinion.

The question was, is questioning our immigration policies necessarily taking a cue from the "Trump playbook"?  Can you question our immigration policies without being seen as a racist xenophobe etc?
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2019, 08:44:56 am »
I guess we need a good example first.
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2019, 11:35:40 am »
Of course this is nonsense, but you're entitled to your opinion.

The question was, is questioning our immigration policies necessarily taking a cue from the "Trump playbook"?  Can you question our immigration policies without being seen as a racist xenophobe etc?
You're creating a strawman: nobody claims that any and all questioning of immigration is a cue from the Trump playbook. That's an extreme position that you've created to imply that any and all questioning of immigration is valid.

Immigration should be questioned in a rational and intelligent way, based on observable facts and data. Hysteria over Islamofascists flooding our gates is bullshit, especially when a large proportion of the Muslims we admit are fleeing the secular and political violence they face in their homelands. Hell,  you can't even look at a public discussion about immigration online without people conflating immigrants and refugees. The vast majority of commenters are completely unfamiliar with our immigration system and the laws that direct it.

So do you want me to admit that questioning the immigration system is NOT out of the Trump playbook? Sometimes it is. Sometimes it's not. The context and content of the arguments matters. There is no one black and white statement to be made about these kinds of complex issues.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2019, 11:50:30 am »
Questioning our immigration policy?
The question was, is questioning our immigration policies necessarily taking a cue from the "Trump playbook"?  Can you question our immigration policies without being seen as a racist xenophobe etc?

so that purposely staged heckling from the alt-right was just... "questioning our immigration policies"? One of the phrases shouted was, "I want to know when you are going to refund the $146m we paid for your illegal immigrants" - was that as well crafted as your strawman attempt?


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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2019, 11:53:30 am »
You're creating a strawman: nobody claims that any and all questioning of immigration is a cue from the Trump playbook. That's an extreme position that you've created to imply that any and all questioning of immigration is valid.

You're creating the strawman, and I never implied all questioning of immigration is valid.

You responded to my response to omni.  He said Scheer is taking a cue from the Trump playbook.  I was asking if that was because he was questioning our immigration policy. His answer to that question was if i support Faith Goldy and United We Roll, because apparently Scheer is associated with them.

This thread is about Scheer and not our immigration policy, because that will cause a bomb of thread drift that we can talk about in one of the immigration threads here.  If you're happy with our immigration policies, and have never seen a reasonable argument that parts of it may be flawed, vote Liberal this fall.
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