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Offline kimmy

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2019, 11:50:37 am »
So he's a shitty listener.  Hmmm...

He's not. He's lying. He heard every word.  You can see see his discomfort as he listens to a question. He's thinking "how do I answer this without getting into an argument with a crazy-person?"

Scheer chose to use the question as a way to criticize Trudeau's social investments, while ignoring the conspiracy elements entirely.  I think that's the path of least resistance in a situation like that.


All three leaders have had awkward moments at townhall meetings.

Trudeau had the encounter with the rambling girl who went on and on... he interrupted her with the "peoplekind" quip, which became well-publicized.  People used it as a way of claiming that Trudeau is politically-correct to the point of absurdity. But in fact Trudeau made a joke to interrupt a rambling speaker and regain control of the situation so he could respond to her and move on to a more coherent question.

And of course Jagmeet Singh had the encounter with the crazy-lady at his townhall who went on a rant about Sharia and the Muslim Brotherhood. He handled that situation very effectively.

And Scheer.. I think he tried to deal with a conspiracy kook in as low-key a way as possible. I think his handling of that situation was ok, but his response afterward-- "I didn't hear the question"-- is seriously weak.   A better explanation as to why he didn't confront the conspiracy theorist would have been "I didn't want to acknowledge the conspiracy theory or give it any more publicity by responding to those claims, which are completely ridiculous."

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2019, 01:18:15 pm »
...but his response afterward-- "I didn't hear the question"-- is seriously weak.   A better explanation as to why he didn't confront the conspiracy theorist would have been "I didn't want to acknowledge the conspiracy theory or give it any more publicity by responding to those claims, which are completely ridiculous."

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Well, I bought it.  Of course I give people the benefit of the doubt.

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2019, 09:17:56 pm »
i dont think we should judge anyone when by being put on the spot by a nutter, most decent people would see it as that, someone thinking this is significant says more about them, i never heard of this until now, still dont know or care what it is.  Asking why did you support Brexit for example, would be more valid.  Even if you can take a principled stand on the freedom of choice its a stupid move for the UK imo, and an opinion that is more easily exploitable.

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2019, 10:17:07 pm »
This is weird story.

If Scheer was asked a question with something to do with Nazis and he doesn't make a point to denounce Nazis, does that make him a Nazi sympathizer?  How did this story get in the news?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyIMKiWpdU4
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2019, 11:06:44 am »
is this the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?

the parallel running thread 'Soldiers of Odin' inspired the waldo to revisit a fall event; one that subsequently showed Andy's deft ineptitude ... the event itself had PM Trudeau giving a speech in rural Quebec; a speech in which PM Trudeau directly confronted a heckler during her purposely staged "protest" where she repeatedly interrupted to demand a “refund” on money spent on “illegal immigrants.”:

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“Ok, Madame,” Trudeau responded. “This intolerance towards immigrants has no room in Canada.”

“Your racism has no place here,” he added.

which solicited a next day Scheer tweet-storm defending the heckler in an attack on PM Trudeau/Liberals:



the heckler subsequently self-identified herself and has been connected with a number of far-right extremist groups, including groups called the Front Patriotique du Québec and Storm Alliance... an "offshoot of the Soldiers of Odin".

well done Andy Scheer! Your quality is Job 1

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2019, 11:24:50 am »
Looks like Scheer is borrowing a page from the Trump playbook. Quelle surprise!

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2019, 12:41:02 pm »
This is weird story.

If Scheer was asked a question with something to do with Nazis and he doesn't make a point to denounce Nazis, does that make him a Nazi sympathizer?  How did this story get in the news?


Your hypothetical Nazi:

Nazi - "Because the Nazis were correct in their extermination of the Jews, shouldn't we have tighter border security to keep Jews out"?
Scheer - "Justin Trudeau's response to border security has been very weak.  As PM, I will keep out all undesirable elements"


Should sheer denounce Nazism in this hypothetical case?

The answer is a resounding and obvious YES!!!  YES he should!!!

Scheer:  "I didn't hear the Jew part...."
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2019, 05:06:15 pm »
Looks like Scheer is borrowing a page from the Trump playbook. Quelle surprise!

Questioning our immigration policy?
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2019, 05:16:01 pm »
Questioning our immigration policy?

Do you support Faith Goldy or "United We Roll" also?

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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2019, 05:22:19 pm »
This is weird story.

If Scheer was asked a question with something to do with Nazis and he doesn't make a point to denounce Nazis, does that make him a Nazi sympathizer?  How did this story get in the news?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyIMKiWpdU4

The question had a built-in assumption that the Clintons were running a child sex ring and Trudeau was contributing money to it.

If he had said: "Mr Scheer, since the Clintons make their fortune with child ****, do you believe Trudeau should be supporting that ?"

You might expect the leader to say something.  Believe it or not there are a lot of people who are shocked if he speaks up against Pizzagate as being real.

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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2019, 05:28:17 pm »
Do you support Faith Goldy or "United We Roll" also?

No to the former, I don't know much about the latter.

Why?
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2019, 05:40:19 pm »
No to the former, I don't know much about the latter.

Why?

Andrew Scheer seems to know them.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/a3bjb4/andrew-scheer-criticized-for-support-of-united-we-roll-convoy

Scheer spoke at the same rally as Faith Goldy, the notorious white nationalist. Anti-hate activists say the United We Roll campaign has been plagued by racist messages.



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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2019, 07:23:12 pm »
Andrew Scheer seems to know them.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/a3bjb4/andrew-scheer-criticized-for-support-of-united-we-roll-convoy

Scheer spoke at the same rally as Faith Goldy, the notorious white nationalist. Anti-hate activists say the United We Roll campaign has been plagued by racist messages.

He should be more careful, dumb move by him.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2019, 07:29:47 pm »
He should be more careful, dumb move by him.

I am embedded with this cuckoos.  Some points:

First of all, they changed their name to United We Roll! because neo-Nazis had taken control of the Canadian Yellow Vests movement.  They tried - sometimes in vain - to get people to shut up about anything but energy policy.  But kudos to them for at least squelching the racist elements.  It didn't work 100% either.

Secondly, they also wanted to distance themselves from Goldy.  She showed up anyway and jumped up and started speaking - supposedly without permission.

The good I take from that is that even populist fringe dwellers can see that outright racism is a no-go politically.
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Re: Just Who is the CPC Leader - Andrew Scheer?
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2019, 07:45:33 pm »
Do you support Faith Goldy or "United We Roll" also?

When did you stop beating your wife?
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