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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #75 on: November 29, 2017, 03:17:56 pm »
Is she qualified, or not?

So rock bottom, basic, well, she can breath and speak the language, is all we look for in a supreme court judge?
That there are several hundred others with superior legal skills is just not important?
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #76 on: November 29, 2017, 03:19:48 pm »
She’s white.
Because he couldn't find a native who was bilingual and who could pass as capable. You know he wanted to appoint an aborigine.

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Half the population is female and she was replacing another female, so...

As for bilingualism, that’s been a part of the Canadian reality since before there was a Canadian reality.  It matters.

It doesn't matter as much as legal knowledge, wisdom and ability. It should not be the foremost criteria for a position at this level.
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #77 on: November 29, 2017, 03:40:47 pm »
Can you explain to us what "moronic twats" means.
In other news, the latest appointment to the SCC has a pretty good background, although I get you have something against women who support ideas other than your own narrow mindedness. She does actually have credibility, do you?

I have nothing against this woman. I'm sure she's a nice lady and a capable enough jurist. But there are likely many, many superior jurists out there. She was chosen because she was one of the very, very few who are bilingual out there, and that only because she comes from Quebec. Which is what I said would happen.

The French make up about 21% of the population now, and that number continues to shrink. Why, then, do we have to continue with this farce of allowing half or more than half of every major governmental positions be dependent on French language skills?
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #78 on: November 29, 2017, 03:50:15 pm »
So is she qualified?  She seems to be more than, yet you claim there were better candidates.  You have yet to provide proof that she was actually a bad choice.

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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #79 on: November 29, 2017, 04:01:08 pm »
So is she qualified?  She seems to be more than, yet you claim there were better candidates.  You have yet to provide proof that she was actually a bad choice.


What's a bad choice? Someone who doesn't understand the law?
You guys persist in this "qualified" description. Do you have no concept of selecting superior candidates? I mean, every single competition for the government I have been involved in, on either side, had a list of people who qualified, if barely. But there were clearly some candidates who were far superior to others. Merely qualifying was rarely enough to land a position.

The fact they had to find an ex-Quebecer living in Alberta for the position, which was supposed to go to someone from BC, btw, in order to land someone who was female and bilingual speaks volumes about what their primary motivation was.
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #80 on: November 29, 2017, 04:49:38 pm »

What's a bad choice? Someone who doesn't understand the law?
You guys persist in this "qualified" description. Do you have no concept of selecting superior candidates? I mean, every single competition for the government I have been involved in, on either side, had a list of people who qualified, if barely. But there were clearly some candidates who were far superior to others. Merely qualifying was rarely enough to land a position.

The fact they had to find an ex-Quebecer living in Alberta for the position, which was supposed to go to someone from BC, btw, in order to land someone who was female and bilingual speaks volumes about what their primary motivation was.

Your biased assumptions are rather redundant She's well qualified from a proffesional sense, and isn't it maybe a good idea to have someone who speaks the official languages of the country?.

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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #81 on: November 29, 2017, 05:25:10 pm »
The fact they had to find an ex-Quebecer living in Alberta for the position, which was supposed to go to someone from BC, btw

Why was it supposed to go to BC.  That's not where Mclaughlin is from, she's from Alberta.

You provide no evidence that she's not eminently qualified.

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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #82 on: November 29, 2017, 06:04:23 pm »
Half the population is female and she was replacing another female, so...

A large % of Canadians are overweight while others are skinny.  Some are short, some really tall.  Some black, some white, some aboriginal, some asian etc. Some have vaginas, some have penises, some have both, some have neither. Some come from rich families, some from poor ones. Some have physical disabilities, some mental disabilities, some psychological disabilities, some 100% healthy.  Some are straight, some gay, some bi, some trans, some gender neutral assexual. Some live in the East, some in west, some up north, some Quebec. Some born in Canada, some not. Some rich immigrants, some poor refugees.  Some Christian, Muslim, Hindu, atheist etc. Some from big cities, some from small towns. Some grew up with 2 parents, some no parents. Some good-looking, some ugly.  Some single, some married, some have kids, some have none.  Some are old, some are young, some middle-aged.  I could keep going for awhile...

We're all very different as per above, but we're all Canadians.  You aren't going to get a group of Justices that are representative of Canada.  "My group isn't represented"...OUTRAGE!!! This is a stupid social engineering project based on completely arbitrary subjective categories picked out of the air that fulfills our moral do-goodery for "diversity".  What offends me is that you can line up 9 white dudes and they're likely very diverse in the categories I outlined above compared to if you're making 1 or 2 of the above categories "person of colour" or "female".  To say white men are any kind of monolithic group is ridiculous, racist, sexist & stereotyping nuttery.  A 40 year old white dude from a rich family likely has much more in common with the female visible minorities that grew up in his same neighbourhood & are similar age than another white dude who's pushing 70, lived in a poor small town all his life on the other side of the country with his gay lover & been deaf since birth.

Regional/provincial requirements may be fine IMO because at least that has political (and constitutional?) considerations re: federalism, similar to the Senate. Stop drawing random lines and just go with the best damned resume.

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As for bilingualism, that’s been a part of the Canadian reality since before there was a Canadian reality.  It matters.

Don't have a problem with the bilingualism since that's part of the job in a legally bilingual country.
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #83 on: November 29, 2017, 06:09:03 pm »
Don't have a problem with the bilingualism since that's part of the job in a legally bilingual country.

It has never been a part of the job description for supreme court justices. Nor is it really of much value unless they are absolutely perfectly bilingual. The term 'functional bilingualism' is a stupid, useless term for people able to order breakfast in either language or ask where the bathroom is.

The SC does not hear witnesses. It looks at case transcripts and then listens to lawyers. The transcripts and the lawyers are translated by people who are not only perfectly bilingual but are experts in the field of legal translation, far, far superior than someone who is 'functionally bilingual' could ever hope for. Which means that they'll still have to read the translated transcripts and still listen to the translations.
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #84 on: November 29, 2017, 06:10:33 pm »
Why was it supposed to go to BC.  That's not where Mclaughlin is from, she's from Alberta.

You provide no evidence that she's not eminently qualified.

Because it was their turn. That's how it works. As far as Liberals are concerned anyone who is bilingual is eminently qualified for any and all jobs.
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #85 on: November 29, 2017, 06:30:31 pm »
Because it was their turn. That's how it works. As far as Liberals are concerned anyone who is bilingual is eminently qualified for any and all jobs.

There is no 'turn' in that way.  It's simply convention that 2 seats be from the west.  Alberta is still the west, I think.

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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #86 on: November 29, 2017, 08:12:49 pm »
Because it was their turn. That's how it works. As far as Liberals are concerned anyone who is bilingual is eminently qualified for any and all jobs.
Why, she doesn’t even have a law degree! She’s just bilingual with a ****! They would have picked up a Montreal stripper for the job, according to you.
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Re: Is this really the way to pick a supreme court judge?
« Reply #87 on: November 29, 2017, 08:14:30 pm »
Why, she doesn’t even have a law degree! She’s just bilingual with a ****! They would have picked up a Montreal stripper for the job, according to you.

The stripper turned them down - too much of a pay cut.
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