Canadian Politics Today

There are problems with our immigration policy yes.

However saying there are problems with our immigration policies and then in the next breath inferring  immigrants are criminals based on subjective anecdotal observations is illogical.

Whether immigrants commit crimes is determine by using proper objective methodology. If anything research and statistics has not shown imigrants are necessarily criminals or more likely to be criminals and I would invite Sir John to provide the research where it shows this.

He will tell you - and he's right - that we don't gather such statistics because we're afraid of the backlash.  Which means that the backlash is going to happen anyway at some point, because there is no public engagement on the topic.

So we are effectively in a cycle of autocracy on this topic.

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My answer would be for governments to separate discussion of multiculturalism & social cohesion with immigration, and to submit the former topic to an all-topic committee.  There is no advantage anymore of having social policy in the political realm, as we can see that a political candidate can grab attention by attacking the fabric of society itself.  Create all-party committees to work out sensible approaches to these things, including engagement with the public and gathering truly held concerns from all points of the political compass in Canada.

 

My comment is that immigration policy should be based on:

1-bringing in to Canada needed skilled workers
2-bringing in to Canada needed skilled trades people
3-bring in to Canada legitimate foreign investors and businesses that would expand operations into Canada hiring Canadians and contributing
to our economy.

Believe it or not our immigration policy tries to do the above. Its not perfect, its cumbersome, people try take advantage of it and misrepresent themselves to get in via 1-3 but its there and tries to do the above with an expedited entry process if the applicant meets the entitlement criteria.

Where we have problems is not with legitimate immigrants coming in with 1-3 above. They are screened and have to speak English or French if goingt o Quebec., its with:

4-family reunification
5-bogus refugee applications
6-illegal immigrant entry now flooding our borders.

In regards to 4, in particular countries and cultures where arranged marriages are the norm, family reunification has been abused and thousands of prospective brides are finding themselves dumped and on welfare in Canada as people use marriages as a way to get citizenship and then leave their wives.

In regards to 5, the current refugee process is flooded with persons who can not speak English or French and can not qualify for immigration so use the refugee process as a method to circumvent the immigration application process they know they would be rejected from.

In regards to 6 which is closely related to 5, coyotes, or people smugglers working with organized crime, organized terrorist cells, organized paedophole and **** rings use the refugee process and illegal entry as their primary methods to smuggle people in and out of the country being used in sex rings, to transport drugs, weapons, etc.

Our current government and past Liberal governments and Conservative governments have failed to reform the refugee system. We signed onto a UN Refugee Convention agreement that we then incorporated into our federal immigration laws which fails to understand reality. It was drafted by elitist academics from sheltered environments who had no clue what the real world is.

Had we truly been interested in helping refugees we would simply each year go to refugee sites and bring in a certain amount of refugees after setting up private sponsors via churches, mosques, synagogues and non profit organizations. This was what Stephen Harper did and Trudeau decided to take credit for the Syrian refugees Harper brought in. After posing and using these refugees as monkey props handing them winter coats and giggling, trudea was off to another photo shoot. Those refugees he posed with were privately sponsored.

Since then what the Trudeau government has done is allow hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to flood into Canada. In fact Canada signed a convention that said if people came into Canada applying for refugee statys  from "designated" nations, they would be deported back to those nations  and asked to apply for refugee status in those nations. The United States is one of those nations.

"Illegal immigrants" is now a political term.  Refugees are processed according to a system.  If there is a crisis, then the government's job is to manage the system to deal with it.

Trudeau stupidly implied that we were changing policy in response to Trump's blocking of Muslims coming to the US and that set a beacon to attract more refugees.  Of course the government hadn't planned for that.

Yet another reason to take this kind of morality out of the political realm.

The Canadian government has told them, if you enter a legal port of entry, i.e., a border crossing and apply for refugee status, you'll be sent back to the US where you will probably lose your refugee hearing application-but if you come across the border illegally, you CAN apply for refugee status and the designated country rule won't apply.

Yes but 'has told them'... isn't right.  Nothing changed there.  Their problem was moral signalling ... which was done for political reasons.

I was born in Canada and taught to be bilingual and taught aboriginals were the first Canadians and everyone else came after.

I was taught to respect the British legal system and French culture of Quebec.

I am a boring Canadian.

Boring Canadians engage in respectful debate, so I ask you to use the term 'refugee' rather than the populist bullshit term of illegal.

So when I hear people **** on genuine immigrants which most Canadians are I say shut up. When I hear people **** on genuine refugees, I say shut up.

When I see bull **** liberal guilt elitists apologizing ...

Yes, let's be real.