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The voted Harper out because they were tired of years of incessant coverage of him and his government being 'mean', and because Trudeau promised them billions in free stuff, and because the oil price drop caused sudden anxiety about the economy which translated into less confidence for the government.

Not because they thought Trudeau was smart.

Sounds like you are "shooting the messenger" for reporting on issues that show some of Harper's policy's were mean: First Nations, the environment, charities, scientists. And he wasn't so good at the economy either.   

That Trudeau was an airhead? Perhaps. But at least he's nice! People wanted 'nice' after Harper. God only knows why. I never cared that Harper could be a SOB. I like my leaders to be SOBs when they need to be. As long as they're competent. And Harper was that.

So the worst economic record since WWII is "competent" in your books?

I don't think I'm going out on a limb here in thinking the problem is that the USA has become a rogue state when it comes to trade.  Thinking it's "Trudeau's fault" is partisan nonsense.

I think the Trudeau gov has been doing a good job of standing up to Trump's negotiating tactics.

Not sure what "rogue state" for trade means though.  Even though Trump admin may be doing some boneheaded things and it's not in our interests either, as a sovereign state they have every right to negotiate whatever trade deals they want.  We just have to weather the storm and delay signing any deal until his term is up and hopefully he's voted out.

So the worst economic record since WWII is "competent" in your books?

What's it like, having been a lying POS your entire life?  I know it's pointless to say it, but his record was just, ever so slightly colored by a recession. Anyway, you, ogft (omni), impact and squiddy et al., really are low.  I do honestly wonder what sort of chemical imbalance allows you to exist in world of abject lies while still being able to look yourself in the mirror, in fact you must be a sociopath.   Harper had enough issues without you having to tell out of context lies over and over, shamelessly, as though that part of your brain that might produce a feeling of shame was completely turned off, Harper no more controlled the world economy than Trudeau controls Trump, and none of it matters, who cares, it's all bullshit that we can't control.  But you can control your nature to be a constant ****.

In short, wtf is your problem?  What do you gain by telling the same bullshit stories over and over?  Get a life ffs.

Harper increasingly was abusing his power in alarming ways, to the point that it was harming our democracy, which is why you should have cared that he was an SOB like the rest of the country who helped vote him out.  He was turning into an authoritarian-lite.  I'm glad he lost, but would have preferred a Trudeau minority gov.

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And here is a counter point, the current government has tried to change the rules of parliament at least twice in an effort to reduce debate and allow them an easier time of it, which when you watch them take the art of the non answer to almost any question to new heights, makes perfect sense.  So where are you tears for that?  How about the outright lie of voting reform and the incredible lengths they went to cover up the fact that the only system they may have considered was the one that benefited them, where is you concern for the abuse of our democracy in that case?  Can any of the non sociopaths here imagine what would have been said if Harper was caught doing that, or maybe groping a woman, even 18 years later?  lol, but a $16 orange juice, MOTHER OF GOD.

Anyway, it was Harper's fault that baby was found dead on a beach, so **** him.

And how would we be making it worse? Trump initiated this. Give a bully an inch and he will take a mile. I don't see that we have a choice other than to just bend over.

What did he accomplish in 10 years that you are proud of?

Debt +170billion
Defense spending down to lowest ever
Driving a wedge between Canadians

The only thing he actually completed was re-painting a plane to wipe out the Canadian colors.

Did I ever say I was proud of Harper in any way, shape or form? Unlike you wild-eyed ideologues on the fringes I have never had any enthusiasm for ANY politician or party. Harper was uninspired and so lacked the ability to inspire others, lacked vision, and lacked bravery to challenge the status quo. But he at least managed things in a mature and competent fashion.  Unlike selfy boy and his cadre of idiots.

As for your continued fanaticism on the budgets, which you blindly pursue despite having no facts on your side, Harper at least managed to get the budget into balance, despite being in the worst recession in decades. Meanwhile your walking wet dream Trudeau has big deficits despite the best economic times in a generation.

And how would we be making it worse? Trump initiated this. Give a bully an inch and he will take a mile. I don't see that we have a choice other than to just bend over.

If we had not brought up ridiculous non-starters like gender equity and climate change, and insisted on standing shoulder to shoulder with Mexico, we might well already have signed a new agreement by now.