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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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Re: Harper thinks he's important...
« Reply #180 on: September 03, 2019, 02:10:27 pm »
What colour is Bernier?

Purple, according to his website.
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Re: Harper thinks he's important...
« Reply #182 on: July 26, 2021, 01:31:02 am »
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/poll-stephen-harper-would-change-this-election/

Harper is important.

Total crap.

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« Reply #183 on: July 26, 2021, 05:07:55 am »
Total crap.

Good for you, no GREAT for you for catching that.  But I think that they are just doing polling the new way now.  Lots of people do this

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« Reply #184 on: July 26, 2021, 10:56:16 am »
Good for you, no GREAT for you for catching that.  But I think that they are just doing polling the new way now.  Lots of people do this

The poll is meaningless if it is unscientific.
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« Reply #185 on: July 26, 2021, 11:58:09 am »
The poll is meaningless if it is unscientific.

Not quite.  Do you follow the 538 ?  Because their methods are on a par with this, or given the landscape... worse.

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« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2021, 01:22:10 pm »
Not quite.  Do you follow the 538 ?  Because their methods are on a par with this, or given the landscape... worse.

You mean 338?   Why do you think itís like that?

338 takes an average of statistically valid polls.  This was a single online poll with no statistical validity.
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« Reply #187 on: July 26, 2021, 02:36:46 pm »
You mean 338?   Why do you think itís like that?

338 takes an average of statistically valid polls.  This was a single online poll with no statistical validity.

An average of statistically valid polls can't provide a standard deviation either.   So the McLeans poll seemed to take extra pains to flag that they are not "a poll" which you caught.

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« Reply #188 on: July 26, 2021, 03:46:32 pm »
An average of statistically valid polls can't provide a standard deviation either.   So the McLeans poll seemed to take extra pains to flag that they are not "a poll" which you caught.

You said they do the same thing.  They are FAR from the same thing.
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« Reply #189 on: July 26, 2021, 04:38:24 pm »
You said they do the same thing.  They are FAR from the same thing.

538 also does the factoring method described in Maclean's

They factor polls both based on quality and to account for demographics.

Both Maclean's and 538 are developing customized methods that are neither scientific nor unscientific.

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« Reply #190 on: August 11, 2021, 12:47:42 pm »
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