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Offline wilber

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #660 on: October 24, 2020, 12:19:01 pm »
The Conservatives are risking crippling Canada's medical device industry with their shenanigans. Dr. Fisman is having none of it:

https://twitter.com/DFisman/status/1319804634546974720?s=20

Sure, politics are being played here but since when has an audit stopped anything?  Dr Fisman protests too much.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #661 on: October 24, 2020, 12:52:28 pm »
Sure, politics are being played here but since when has an audit stopped anything?  Dr Fisman protests too much.

Did you read the explanation of why it would stop contracts from being signed in Canada?

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #662 on: October 24, 2020, 12:53:08 pm »
Sure, politics are being played here...

ya think! So, member wilber... yet another confidence motion? Yet, another... in the midst of the pandemic?  ;D


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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #663 on: October 25, 2020, 09:13:28 pm »
ya think! So, member wilber... yet another confidence motion? Yet, another... in the midst of the pandemic?  ;D




It's Trudeau who makes them confidence motions. The opposition has no say as to what is a confidence motion.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #664 on: October 25, 2020, 11:29:21 pm »

It's Trudeau who makes them confidence motions. The opposition has no say as to what is a confidence motion.

These motions have the capacity to cripple the government. They’re unprecedented. Making them confidence motions is the only way to ensure the NDP votes no.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #665 on: October 26, 2020, 12:02:50 am »
These motions have the capacity to cripple the government. They’re unprecedented. Making them confidence motions is the only way to ensure the NDP votes no.
How do they cripple government?
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #666 on: October 26, 2020, 12:08:58 am »
How do they cripple government?

You don’t create a committee with an agenda and outcome that’s predetermined unless you’re trying to cause trouble. We already have an ethics committee and an ethics commissioner.

You don’t run an inquest into an ongoing pandemic response. First, there are the confidentiality issues related to medical device manufacture and vaccine/therapy research I already mentioned through Dr Fisman. Second, we’re in the middle of the pandemic. Looking into the response now is like doing an autopsy on someone who is still alive.  Further, the motion would literally require more documentation to be provided than any other ask in history. It’s designed to do one thing - cause trouble.
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« Reply #667 on: October 26, 2020, 12:09:07 am »
It's Trudeau who makes them confidence motions. The opposition has no say as to what is a confidence motion.

no - O'Tool came flat out and stated he had lost confidence in the government. Words have consequences!

Quote from: Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau
The Conservatives put forward a motion that clearly outlines their lack of confidence in the government. The opposition is going to have to decide whether or not they want to make this minority Parliament work or whether they have lost confidence in the government.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #668 on: October 26, 2020, 09:14:29 am »
I’m quite enjoying the theatre coming or of Ottawa. The Liberals prorogued Parliament to try and put a lid on the We controversy. The Conservatives don’t really want an election but are playing it for all they are worth to make the Liberals look bad. The NDP really doesn’t want an election because they would be the big losers. The Bloq doesn’t care as long as they can spin it to their advantage. JT might want an election as long as he can blame it on someone else. Will the Conservatives push too hard and make themselves look unreasonable to the undecided and the NDP more justified in not supporting them or will JT be goaded into calling an election no one really wants? Will the pillow fighting continue or will we stumble into an unnecessary election? Stay tuned.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #669 on: October 26, 2020, 12:28:14 pm »
The theatre is bullshit. We’re in a national crisis and we have a bunch of children in opposition.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #670 on: October 26, 2020, 12:38:38 pm »
The theatre is bullshit. We’re in a national crisis and we have a bunch of children in opposition.

Don't push it yet. We might be in a national crisis.
Although I would say it's pretty safe to predict something very horrible and scary. That's when it won't be political bullshit anymore.
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« Reply #671 on: October 26, 2020, 01:01:50 pm »
The theatre is bullshit. We’re in a national crisis and we have a bunch of children in opposition.

We also were in a national crisis and they went on summer holidays to quash an ethics investigation.

There's nothing wrong for calling for an investigation into the WE charity thing or the gov COVID response.  There's something fishy about turning them into confidence motions to try and quash them or trigger an election you want but the public doesn't and so can blame on someone else.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #672 on: October 26, 2020, 01:09:46 pm »
We also were in a national crisis and they went on summer holidays to quash an ethics investigation.

There's nothing wrong for calling for an investigation into the WE charity thing or the gov COVID response.  There's something fishy about turning them into confidence motions to try and quash them or trigger an election you want but the public doesn't and so can blame on someone else.

Trudeau thinks turning to confidence motions plays well for his side. Do you think it doesn't? Or on the other hand, do you think it's playing well for the Conservatives?
Would that be important?  Personally, I'm not prepared to say either way right now.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #673 on: October 26, 2020, 01:19:05 pm »
The theatre is bullshit. We’re in a national crisis and we have a bunch of children in opposition.

Aww.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #674 on: October 26, 2020, 02:03:50 pm »
We also were in a national crisis and they went on summer holidays to quash an ethics investigation.

There's nothing wrong for calling for an investigation into the WE charity thing or the gov COVID response.  There's something fishy about turning them into confidence motions to try and quash them or trigger an election you want but the public doesn't and so can blame on someone else.

You don’t do a post mortem while treating the patient.
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