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« Reply #555 on: October 30, 2020, 07:43:18 pm »
That's not what we were talking about. And I don't consider most of it as defrauding the government.

If you intentionally deceive the government and break the agreement you signed on the EI or CERB program then yes legally that's fraud and it's illegal despite what you or I may think.  If you want to turn CERB or EI into a UI program that's a completely different topic.  As of right now, the rules are the rules under these specific programs.

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Now we're back to what we were talking about. I'm not all that concerned mainly because the system now needs to be able to support people who are unemployed. So for instance a person who had a job that has  been eliminated due to automation, say a school teacher for the sake of argument, shouldn't  be expected to take a job as a labourer.

Don't forget that talking to me is like talking to a bleeding heart socialist, so there won't be much satisfaction coming out of it for you. I just feel that the system is responsible for the people who are unemployed.

If you're unemployed through no fault of your own and willing and able to work then yes I think the government should have benefit programs to support you.

If a teacher loses their job due to automation then yes of course they should be expected to become a labourer or whatever job they can get.  Ideally what I would do is support retraining/schooling for them so that they don't have to flip burgers the rest of their life, including giving them free income support while going to school if they have no other supports.  It's socially, economically, and psychologically destructive to someone to simply give them money to do nothing all day if they are otherwise able.  This is what overprotective parents do to their children when they allow them to live in the basement on their dime aimless and unemployed.  Everyone needs a reason to get up in the morning, and to be a contributing member of society if at all possible. A social safety net is just that: a safety net.  It catches you if you fall so you can get back up and be on your way again.

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Isn't it interesting that unemployment due to automation has especially hurt workers in the US, and their system hasn't made adjustments to correct the inequities! So Americans who once earned high wages can no longer find good paying jobs and so have to work two service industry jobs such as MacD's hamburger teams.

I agree, I support a healthy social safety net to help people in need to get back on their feet.  I'm not any less caring than you are, we just have different methods of helping people.  I support a government that is not only maternal (caring and compassionate), but also paternal (helping people become independent, resilient etc.).  If you go too far to the right (paternal) you become cruel like in the US and people suffer, but if you become too maternal you can enable dependency and people suffer.

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Sounds like JMT didn't have the time for it and just scoffed it  off to experience? I think he/she is a bigger bleeding heart than me, and that's going some!!

People who are too much of a bleeding heart have good and noble intentions, but can often cause unintended suffering.  Likewise, anyone too tough with the "tough love" can cause suffering too.
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« Reply #556 on: October 30, 2020, 08:02:25 pm »
People smarter than you are answering. You’re just choosing to dismiss It. Like I said, it’s pointless.

You've pointed to links to books that I can't read and you likely haven't read, and tweets that show no evidence whatsoever.  There's lots of books, PhD academics, and tweets that are critical of MMT.

If someone has made calculations on longterm projections of the cost/benefits of debt borrowing and can show the math I'd like to see it.  If the math of endless borrowing shows a net economic gain for Canada i'll be all for it no matter the theory.

What you've done is decided you like the Liberal Party best and filled your twitter feed with endless tweets of people who support them or their policies to confirm your ideological and partisan biases.  That's not evidence.  If you or Freeland want to put Canada on a very different financial path then show Canadians the math with projections.  The formula and calculations shouldn't take up more than a page or 2.
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« Reply #557 on: October 30, 2020, 08:25:16 pm »
You've pointed to links to books that I can't read and you likely haven't read, and tweets that show no evidence whatsoever.  There's lots of books, PhD academics, and tweets that are critical of MMT.

Canada isn't doing MMT.

By the way - I read The Deficit Myth, and it's extremely accessible.

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« Reply #558 on: October 30, 2020, 08:29:59 pm »
What you've done is decided you like the Liberal Party best and filled your twitter feed with endless tweets of people who support them or their policies to confirm your ideological and partisan biases.  That's not evidence.  If you or Freeland want to put Canada on a very different financial path then show Canadians the math with projections.  The formula and calculations shouldn't take up more than a page or 2.

It's not anyone else's fault that you don't want to listen to leading academics like Dr. Tombe or Dr. Tedds who are well regarded in their industry. They say we can afford this. The PBO says we can afford this (up to a point). Screaming about deficits right now, is, quite frankly, retarded.

Compound growth is a thing. The percentage of growth going forward doesn't have to change in actual percentage terms when you have a bigger base to build from. Government borrowing at near zero percent over the medium term isn't scary.
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« Reply #559 on: October 31, 2020, 03:06:23 am »
It's not anyone else's fault that you don't want to listen to leading academics like Dr. Tombe or Dr. Tedds who are well regarded in their industry. They say we can afford this. The PBO says we can afford this (up to a point). Screaming about deficits right now, is, quite frankly, retarded.

Why would I take their word for it when you've shown me zero evidence about why they think we can "afford" this.  It's the dumbest opinion ever.  As I said, i'm fine with the COVID deficit, i'm not fine with cheerleaders trying to convince us everything is a-ok.

See, what happened is the 2008 recession, which caused a lot of borrowing, and then it ended and you and Trudeau's gang said everything is fine let's borrow some more.  And then another recession happened right on schedule and we'll borrow and you'll say everything is fine, and then we'll recover and you and the Libs will want to keep borrowing, and then the cycle will keep repeating.  You're on record here numerous times saying we don't ever have to pay anything back.

What Freeland says is completely meaningless because words by our politicians are meaningless, only their actions matter.  Morneau knew where this was headed, he wasn't on board, so he split.  Trudeau will make every excuse to spend more money after this is over.  He's got big plans to "rebuild Canada a more sustainable, equitable, and clean Canada".  He was going to announce it last month, he chickened out, no point with poll numbers up.. He'll probably wait until after the election and see if he can get a majority before announcing.
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« Reply #560 on: October 31, 2020, 08:20:14 am »
Why would I take their word for it when you've shown me zero evidence about why they think we can "afford" this.  It's the dumbest opinion ever.  As I said, i'm fine with the COVID deficit, i'm not fine with cheerleaders trying to convince us everything is a-ok.

Everything as of right now will be fine. If this becomes a 3 - 4 years struggle spending hundreds of billions per year, we'll have a problem.  There are significant resources out there to help you understand why federal finances will be just fine. This is one:

https://financesofthenation.ca/

And here, in their latest article, is your evidence:

https://financesofthenation.ca/2020/10/28/is-canadas-federal-debt-a-cause-for-concern/

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See, what happened is the 2008 recession, which caused a lot of borrowing, and then it ended and you and Trudeau's gang said everything is fine let's borrow some more. 

Borrowing some more was fine. I've repeatedly referenced the PBO report (with 'evidence') showing you that:

https://www.pbo-dpb.gc.ca/en/blog/news/RP-1920-029-S-fiscal-sustainability-report-2020-rapport-viabilite-financiere-2020

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« Reply #561 on: October 31, 2020, 12:44:50 pm »
Why would I take their word for it when you've shown me zero evidence about why they think we can "afford" this.  It's the dumbest opinion ever.  As I said, i'm fine with the COVID deficit, i'm not fine with cheerleaders trying to convince us everything is a-ok.


Cheerleading and putting a happy face on the issue is more important to politicians than any other factor Gorgeous. Then that effort by the Liberals and their cheerleaders will need to be neutralized by the Conservatives with basically the same message you're pushing. It's the doom and gloom in our future that makes it a ceertainty that our grandchildren will be paying the price for the LIberal's careless spending. Right?

So in a way, you've blown your cover. That's o.k. though; we need a conservative voice speaking for the right!

Maybe it can all boil down to the question of whether we should 'not' suffer now and let the chips fall where they may for our grandchildren, etc.
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« Reply #562 on: October 31, 2020, 01:35:02 pm »
 Hey Gorgeous - you are right of course about Our idiot Boy Justin and his spending habits!
The odd thing is that back in 2015 I predicted that if Our idiot Boy got elected - then he would perform a magic trick and make all our jobs and money DISAPPEAR!

Sadly, I had no idea he would be so careless and sloppy about closing the border to travellers carrying the Wuhan Pestilence! The Virus has given LIE-berals an excuse to spend like there is no tomorrow! On the plus side - the number of people who are TERRIFIED of what new taxes we will be hit with and FEARFUL of what manner of inflation that Our idiot Boy will generate in  future with his free money gig - is growing like weeds in June!

Inflation is a THIEF IN THE NIGHT that poisons anybody trying to save a penny for the future and LIE-berals want to harness the thief for their own selfish motives! Inflation is a GRAND THING if you already own stuff like a house or pleasant cottage on a lake or have a nice govt sized PENSION  - indexed to inflation - of the sort enjoyed by our civil service union Teacher HOGS - and our LIE-beral overlords have tapped into the same gusher of Free Money!

But there is part of the problem - even our civil service union HOGS are getting nervous about the debts! After all - the HOGS have kids who are not getting covered quite as nicely as the older HOG generation! Even WORSE - LIE-berals have made IMMENSE PROMISES to unions regarding IOU`s promising to top up HOG pensions some time in the future! And there aint enoug gravy on the planet to cover those HOG IOU`s~

Yes - even our civil service union  HOGS are getting nervous! The benefits they are getting from their pensions are DRAINING the pot of gold way faster than LIE-berals can replenish it! In 2012 - which is the last year in  which our LIE-beral friendly news media chose to discuss the subject - LIE-berals had promised over $300 Billion dollars in  pension top ups to Fedral HOGS ALONE! With another $55 billion promised to OSSTF - our Ontari-owe high school teacher HOGS!

But the other provincial unions and the municipal HOGS and the employees of Crown Corps such as hospitals, colleges, universities and corps like Metrolinx have all been SILENT about what promises LIE-berals have made to them in exchange for HOG votes at election time!

Witness the destruction of Wynne-bag LIE-berals in Ontari-owe! There aint enough gravy in the world to BUY LIE-berals enough votes to remain too long in power! Consider that Our idiot Boy got a nice majority in  2015 and 4 short years later he has been reduced to a scandal plagued minority!

So where will it all end? Right after enough people figure out that LIE-berals are doling out gravy with one hand and PICKING OUR POCKETS with the other and there is NO WAY to beat that math! And the pickpocket hand works MUCH FASTER than the doling out gravy hand!

Look at LIE-beral Wynne-bag and her grand minimum wage pay raise - that was ALL swiftly taxed back again -PLUS INTEREST charges - so that LIE-berals could seek to BUY civil service union HOG votes! And Wynne-bag FAILED! AS I said there aint enough gravy to keep LIE-berals in power for too long now!

Canada is BANKRUPT and the Northern Pesos that our idiot Boy is doling out will soon have the same value as the currency issued in  the last days of the Weimar Republic! And surely you recall what happened there? Some goof named
Hitler was elected to restore some sense to the economy!

Sadly, that is the great danger we face! That Our idiot Boy is degrading our money and perverting our democracy! I have said on various occasions that ALL the Trudopes - father and sons - are ASPIRING SOVIET SOCIALIST DICTATORS!
Thus we may end up facing the sort of social chaos that occurred in Argentina and Chile and which is currently happening in Venezuela! As some clever person noted - and I forget who it was : "You can vote yourself into Communism and Socialism, but you have to shoot your way back out again"!     

The sooner Our idiot Boy and his LIE-beral gang are thrown off the political stage- the BETTER FOR US ALL! Even the HOGS know this which is why they would not support Wynne-bag in 2018! Her fiscal mess had simply grown too large!

One fine day the idiot Boy will get thrown out of office- the only question is how much damage he will do to us all before being dumped!   
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« Reply #563 on: October 31, 2020, 02:14:27 pm »
Our idiot Boy Justin... Our idiot Boy... LIE-berals... Our idiot Boy... LIE-berals... LIE-beral... union HOGS...  HOGS... HOG... LIE-berals... HOG... HOG... union HOGS... LIE-berals... LIE-beral... LIE-berals... HOGS... teacher HOGS... municipal HOGS... LIE-berals... HOG... Wynne-bag LIE-berals... LIE-berals... Our idiot Boy... LIE-berals... LIE-beral... LIE-berals... union HOG... LIE-berals... our idiot Boy... Our idiot Boy... Trudopes... Our idiot Boy... LIE-beral... HOGS... idiot Boy


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« Reply #564 on: November 01, 2020, 09:19:05 am »
It's not anyone else's fault that you don't want to listen to leading academics like Dr. Tombe or Dr. Tedds who are well regarded in their industry. They say we can afford this. The PBO says we can afford this (up to a point). Screaming about deficits right now, is, quite frankly, retarded.

Compound growth is a thing. The percentage of growth going forward doesn't have to change in actual percentage terms when you have a bigger base to build from. Government borrowing at near zero percent over the medium term isn't scary.

We have a government with no fiscal policy other than dumping as much money as it can into the economy and you think any attempt at accountability is just politicking.
At one time it was all about Debt to GDP with you and now that doesn't even seem to matter.
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« Reply #565 on: November 01, 2020, 11:28:30 am »
Hey Gorgeous - you are right of course about Our idiot Boy Justin and his spending habits!
The odd thing is that back in 2015 I predicted that if Our idiot Boy got elected - then he would perform a magic trick and make all our jobs and money DISAPPEAR!

Sadly, I had no idea he would be so careless and sloppy about closing the border to travellers carrying the Wuhan Pestilence! The Virus has given LIE-berals an excuse to spend like there is no tomorrow! On the plus side - the number of people who are TERRIFIED of what new taxes we will be hit with and FEARFUL of what manner of inflation that Our idiot Boy will generate in  future with his free money gig - is growing like weeds in June!

Inflation is a THIEF IN THE NIGHT that poisons anybody trying to save a penny for the future and LIE-berals want to harness the thief for their own selfish motives! Inflation is a GRAND THING if you already own stuff like a house or pleasant cottage on a lake or have a nice govt sized PENSION  - indexed to inflation - of the sort enjoyed by our civil service union Teacher HOGS - and our LIE-beral overlords have tapped into the same gusher of Free Money!

But there is part of the problem - even our civil service union HOGS are getting nervous about the debts! After all - the HOGS have kids who are not getting covered quite as nicely as the older HOG generation! Even WORSE - LIE-berals have made IMMENSE PROMISES to unions regarding IOU`s promising to top up HOG pensions some time in the future! And there aint enoug gravy on the planet to cover those HOG IOU`s~

Yes - even our civil service union  HOGS are getting nervous! The benefits they are getting from their pensions are DRAINING the pot of gold way faster than LIE-berals can replenish it! In 2012 - which is the last year in  which our LIE-beral friendly news media chose to discuss the subject - LIE-berals had promised over $300 Billion dollars in  pension top ups to Fedral HOGS ALONE! With another $55 billion promised to OSSTF - our Ontari-owe high school teacher HOGS!

But the other provincial unions and the municipal HOGS and the employees of Crown Corps such as hospitals, colleges, universities and corps like Metrolinx have all been SILENT about what promises LIE-berals have made to them in exchange for HOG votes at election time!

Witness the destruction of Wynne-bag LIE-berals in Ontari-owe! There aint enough gravy in the world to BUY LIE-berals enough votes to remain too long in power! Consider that Our idiot Boy got a nice majority in  2015 and 4 short years later he has been reduced to a scandal plagued minority!

So where will it all end? Right after enough people figure out that LIE-berals are doling out gravy with one hand and PICKING OUR POCKETS with the other and there is NO WAY to beat that math! And the pickpocket hand works MUCH FASTER than the doling out gravy hand!

Look at LIE-beral Wynne-bag and her grand minimum wage pay raise - that was ALL swiftly taxed back again -PLUS INTEREST charges - so that LIE-berals could seek to BUY civil service union HOG votes! And Wynne-bag FAILED! AS I said there aint enough gravy to keep LIE-berals in power for too long now!

Canada is BANKRUPT and the Northern Pesos that our idiot Boy is doling out will soon have the same value as the currency issued in  the last days of the Weimar Republic! And surely you recall what happened there? Some goof named
Hitler was elected to restore some sense to the economy!

Sadly, that is the great danger we face! That Our idiot Boy is degrading our money and perverting our democracy! I have said on various occasions that ALL the Trudopes - father and sons - are ASPIRING SOVIET SOCIALIST DICTATORS!
Thus we may end up facing the sort of social chaos that occurred in Argentina and Chile and which is currently happening in Venezuela! As some clever person noted - and I forget who it was : "You can vote yourself into Communism and Socialism, but you have to shoot your way back out again"!     

The sooner Our idiot Boy and his LIE-beral gang are thrown off the political stage- the BETTER FOR US ALL! Even the HOGS know this which is why they would not support Wynne-bag in 2018! Her fiscal mess had simply grown too large!

One fine day the idiot Boy will get thrown out of office- the only question is how much damage he will do to us all before being dumped!

You're reading Gorgeous wrong northland, and you don't have a Conservative ally in him. Although it's easy to read him wrong because of the more, shall we say 'balanced',  positions he takes on government spending.
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« Reply #566 on: November 01, 2020, 04:24:03 pm »
 Oh dont worry about me and Gorgeous! I take things as they come! I am prepared to offer credit where credit is due!
The UGLY FACT IS that LIE-berals are being DELIBERATELY WASTEFUL! They have decided that the only way to persuade us to accept their policies is to blind us with gravy!

Later of course - once enough  of us get addicted to govt gravy - then they can put the screws to us like a drug dealer "negotiating" with an addict badly in need of another fix!

   Here is an article illustrating all that is wrong with LIE-beral immigration policy. With some comments of my own in brackets):
   
'JUST KILL': Accused terrorist on cross-country 'jihad' pleads guilty to murdering student, confesses to 3 other killings

From Associated Press. Published: March 6, 2018. Updated: March 6, 2018 6:53 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Crime

By David Porter, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEWARK, N.J. — A man who said he was on a “jihad” to avenge U.S. policy in the Middle East made a surprise guilty plea Tuesday to killing a college student in New Jersey and confessed to killing three other people in Washington state in a crime binge that took investigators weeks to connect.

Ali Muhammad Brown, a 34-year-old former Seattle resident, admitted shooting 19-year-old Brendan Tevlin in late June 2014 as Tevlin sat at a traffic light in West Orange, a few miles from Newark.

He also took responsibility for fatally shooting Dwone Anderson-Young, 23, and Ahmed Said, 27, earlier that month in Seattle after they left a gay nightclub, and for the deadly shooting of Leroy Henderson, 30, in the Seattle suburb of Skyway in April the same year. Brown said he killed the two in Seattle because he believed they were gay.

(Oh right! This is the famous TOLERANCE that Our idiot Boy Justin is trying to foster among us! Even main stream Muslims INSIST being gay is a sin so how can Our idiot Boy stab the gay community in the back this way by using OUR tax money to bring in Haters like this? And as we know, Muslims also believe women should be stripped of ALL civil rights as well- though our feminist idiot PM ignores this as well! Winning votes trumps logic and reason among LIE-berals!)

Brown pleaded guilty to multiple charges, including murder, robbery and terrorism. He was the first person charged with terrorism connected to a homicide under a New Jersey law. He has yet to make a plea in the Washington cases.

In his statement to the court, Brown expressed remorse, telling the judge, “The mistake that I made is I thought I was fighting jihad,” according to NJ.com .

(He admits to three murders and to robbery as well- so exactly HOW MANY crimes has this clown really committed? Is this confession a slick ploy to get cops to drop investigation into other crimes? WE do know cops are short staffed and will basically stop looking after they get some serious charges on a suspect! As I have pointed out before- Muslims are marvelous at offering apologies AFTER THEY GET CAUGHT! And of course a show of feigned remorse plays on the heart strings of stupid LIE-beral judges!)

The plea came as jury selection was underway for his trial. No deal was offered to Brown, who is expected to be sentenced in May to life without parole, Assistant Essex County Prosecutor Jamel Semper said.

(I don’t know what Yankee yearly jail costs are but here in Canada it is $150 grand per year multiplied by the 25 years sentence and it is a HUGE wad of cash to shell out as reward for allowing Muslim influence into the country! One has only to think of the Cdn Muslim who stabbed several soldiers at a Toronto recruiting centre- and was deemed not responsible due to insanity- so we can expect it will cost at least a million dollars to lock the clown up and treat him for a decade or so- till the head shrinkers get tired of picking at his brain and turn him loose! And we already know that Our idiot Boy will NOT deport rhe clown!)

“It appeared he wanted to make himself something of a martyr,” Semper said. “He is not. He is just an invented killer who destroyed lives and hurt families.

(One has to think that radical web sites ought to be considered a form of warfare and BLOCKED! Stuff from foreign countries known for radical propaganda and making murderous threats surely cannot be that hard to identify? Though it might be easier just to scorn and get rid of LIE-beral politicians who present Muslims as suitable citizens in exchange for votes! After all- few people want to join a group that main stream society ridicules! )

“He was clearly radicalized online and took up arms against the country — his own country that gave him constitutional protections and allowed him to appear in court and throw himself at the mercy of the court.”

The killings “were part of an overarching plan to kill Americans” in retaliation for what Brown contended were “millions of lives” the U.S. had taken in the Middle East, Semper said.

In court papers filed in Seattle in 2014, authorities said Brown described himself to detectives after his New Jersey arrest as a strict Muslim who had become angry with the U.S. government’s role in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. He claimed the government’s actions led to the deaths of innocent civilians and children.

(It ALL comes back to Israel and oil! The oil is used to keep the west safe from dictators like Hitler and Stalin and Putin! And Israel has a right to exist- a fact that Muslims deny at every turn! Muslims are so wrapped in their own vision they see NOTHING of the larger world and the struggle against Nazi and Communist dictators! They do not see they are caught between armed camps and MUST make a choice which side to support! To bad they have always chosen dictators!)

(Muslims do not want peace in their lands- they want TOTAL victory over Jews and the West and the establishment of a World Caliphate dedicated to Sharia Law! The really insane thing is that even if Muslims achieve all their military goals there still will be NO PEACE! Once United States and Israel are out of the way- Muslims will immediately start fighting each other in support of various versions of Sharia- and of course they will also fight over the spoils of war- the sex slaves and money and land! Radical Islam must be viewed as a virulent political disease with all the charm and grace of Nazi Socialism and it needs to be quarantined for our safety!)

(And has anybody else noticed how many crazy people- usually with radicalized Muslim backgrounds are turning up here in the west? Aaron Driver, Sammy Yatim. The Toronto recruiting office stabber. The loon who invaded parliament a few years back to kill the PM. This latest killer Muhammad Ali Brown! Are agents of Isis deliberately seeking out crazy people on line in the west and messing with their heads till they attack? It sure LOOKS like a cheap and easy way to strike at the hated West!)

(And some hypocrites will point to the Quebec Mosque shooting of 6 Muslims and the answer to that is it would NOT have happened if LIE-beral political MADNESS was not reigning supreme! Cdn hostility to LIE-beral immigration policy is growing with each LIE that LIE-berals tell us! LIE-berals can PRETEND we are not at war with radical Islam but even the crazy people among us recognize that LIE!)

(Most of us are sensible enough to recognize that violence is NOT the answer! But  federal LIE-beral are deep in panic mode as the 2019 election approaches even as our economy goes down the toilet thanks to the trade war that Our idiot Boy foolishly picked with Trump! LIE-berals have already told us their best LIES- about money and jobs and Muslims- and have been exposed as total failures!)

In a subsequent recorded interview in New Jersey, Washington authorities wrote, Brown described his idea of a “just kill,” in which the target was men unaccompanied by women, children or elderly people.

(Oh! That`s nice- a fine moral distinction! A “just kill” with no little kids body parts littering the streets like in France and other places! And idiots will immediately shrill “what about Israel” and the answer to that is for terror group Hamas to stop using civilians as SHIELDS during their attacks!)

According to prosecutors, Tevlin, a sophomore at Virginia’s University of Richmond, was driving through West Orange on his way to his family’s home in nearby Livingston when Brown and two other men, following him in another car, jumped out and surrounded him.

(So Brown the terrorist had TWO ACCOMPLICES that have not yet been caught? Oh great - the weather today is sunny with a chance of MORE TERROR!)

Brown shot Tevlin through the passenger-side window, hitting him 10 times, prosecutors said at the time of Brown’s arrest. Tevlin’s car was then driven to an apartment complex in West Orange with Tevlin inside, and some of his belongings were stolen.

Brown was found hiding in the woods in West Orange a few weeks after the shooting. After his arrest, prosecutors in New Jersey said results of ballistics tests from the Tevlin shooting were put into a national database and matched with the gun used in the Seattle killings.

Brown is serving a 35-year sentence for an armed robbery committed before the Tevlin murder.

(This Muslim cancer needs to be curtailed before it makes us all crazy- and before LIE-berals bankrupt us all with their vote buying bribery! But at least this time around Black Lives Matter are not publicly defending the CRIMINAL! That is a nice change from their usual racist standard!) 



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« Reply #568 on: November 22, 2020, 03:30:11 pm »



He's/she's/it's gone. Perhaps we should have been more gentle. It's just that it's hard to be gentle on it when the issue is mindnumbingly long rants about nothing in particular worth the read?

The forum is doing quite a bit better regardless of this particular loss.
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