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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #900 on: November 23, 2020, 10:19:43 pm »
Most people of that opinion are elitists who are simply scared of giving political power to actual citizens and would rather political power stay in the hands of their chosen elites because they think they'll vote for the policies they like.  Of course JT wouldn't want a referendum, it takes control out of his hands and the MP majority he has that he whips.  Guys like him and Harper are control freaks.

We all watched the citizens of the UK jump off a cliff. We almost watched the citizens of Quebec do the same thing. We elect representatives to make difficult decisions that we (well, you anyway) don't always understand.

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Ever since Brexit we've seen tons of articles, including academic ones, from globalist elitists spinning referendums as bad because for one of the few times in the last 40 years things didn't go their way and they freaked out, so ya let's now undermine their legitimacy.  ::)  What a bunch of tyrants.

Also, it was a bad move that cost the UK in more ways than it could ever gain.

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From all your comments on the US system and the Canadian system, the JWR scandal, and now referendums, it's very clear that you care more about your chosen party/ideology having power than actual democracy.  You're a tyrant pretending to be something else, whether this is subconscious bias or straight up dishonestly or a bit of both.

Please, tell me more about me. I voted for the Harper Conservatives in 2008 because I thought that the Liberals were a bad choice. I supported the coalition in 2008, because the Conservatives were lying about our system of government. I was glad it collapsed, because Dion was a weak leader. I thought the Liberals and the other opposition parties overreached with their holding the Conservatives in contempt of parliament. I voted NDP in 2011, despite supporting Harper, because Conservatives are mean spirited bigots. I went into the 2015 campaign thinking Justin Trudeau was an idiot, and planning to support the Mulcair NDP. I supported the Manitoba PCs in 2016, despite being an NDP supporter because I felt the NDP were out of ideas, and it was time for a change and was unable to support any party in 2019, because they all sucked (that was a whoops on my part given the COVID death count). I supported the Liberals for reelection in 2019, because they were (by far) the best choice.

That I tend to lean very centrist (making me often a Liberal) and I have had more direct exposure to government and it's internal workings than you. I'm not jaded or naïve about government or humanity. Yes, I tend to sympathize with the party in power, because they have the difficult decisions to make. Yes, I cut them, no matter the party, a lot of slack because they're all only human.

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If you look at history, the main point of representative democracy is to keep control among the elites while giving the populace a say once every few years to massage their need to think they have some kind of control.  Women, blacks/ethnic minorities, low income earners, people who didn't own property, have all been excluded from voting in the past, including in Canada.


Which is precisely why we have protections and rights that the public don't get a vote on. Tyranny of the majority is no better than what you accuse me of.

You and I may disagree on issues. That's fine. That said, you can take your reading of me, and shove it right up your ass.
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