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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2175 on: June 09, 2022, 10:14:01 am »
Harpers biggest deficit was 55.6B during the height of the financial crisis in 2009/10.

oh member wilber! The ever-go-to of Harper having to deal with "theGreatDepression" is a CPC/Conservative canard... in reality, Canada entered it later, its impact was milder and its duration shorter (just 7 months) than that of any other G7 nation.

waldo linkee dump:

=> 6 charts show Stephen Harper has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since World War II

=> Harper’s economic record the worst in Canada’s postwar history

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2176 on: June 09, 2022, 04:11:07 pm »
oh member wilber! The ever-go-to of Harper having to deal with "theGreatDepression" is a CPC/Conservative canard... in reality, Canada entered it later, its impact was milder and its duration shorter (just 7 months) than that of any other G7 nation.

waldo linkee dump:

=> 6 charts show Stephen Harper has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since World War II

=> Harper’s economic record the worst in Canada’s postwar history

Doesn't his "economic record" include the mild and short duration of post-2008 crisis, according to your "everything in an economy is caused by the PM" flawed logic.

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« Reply #2177 on: June 09, 2022, 09:09:16 pm »
Doesn't his "economic record" include the mild and short duration of post-2008 crisis, according to your "everything in an economy is caused by the PM" flawed logic.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Wanna bet?
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« Reply #2178 on: June 10, 2022, 10:30:29 am »
Doesn't his "economic record" include the mild and short duration of post-2008 crisis, according to your "everything in an economy is caused by the PM" flawed logic.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

huh! It was the member wilber's revisionist slant that had him dredge up the ready go-to CPC/Conservative canard concerning the 'greatDepression of 2008/9' that Harper Conservatives had to deal with! Of course, the waldo rushed to the scene of this canard replay to reinforce, once again, that Canada entered it later, that its impact was milder and that its duration shorter (just 7 months) than that of any other G7 nation.

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2179 on: June 10, 2022, 10:38:52 am »
Prime Minister Trudeau announces the creation of an independent public inquiry following the invocation of the Emergencies Act:


it would seem this thread, this quoted post, is one of many possible threads/posts related to the invocation of the Emergencies Act... that 'journalist' Andrew Coyne's bloviating belongs: OPINION - If Marco Mendicino misled Parliament, he has to go

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Of course, I can’t say with certainty the minister lied. I can’t know precisely what his state of mind was. Maybe there’s some construction of events that can be reconciled with his statements: either that the police asked for the Emergencies Act, or as he now maintains, that they asked for the “powers” therein. Who knows: maybe the cops are lying. But he should at the least be called back before the committee to explain himself. As should they.

yes waldo, yes, the independent public inquiry would most certainly cover such Andrew Coyne musings...

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2180 on: June 10, 2022, 11:13:09 am »
huh! It was the member wilber's revisionist slant that had him dredge up the ready go-to CPC/Conservative canard concerning the 'greatDepression of 2008/9' that Harper Conservatives had to deal with! Of course, the waldo rushed to the scene of this canard replay to reinforce, once again, that Canada entered it later, that its impact was milder and that its duration shorter (just 7 months) than that of any other G7 nation.

The great revisionist Waldo "forgets" the opposition were criticizing Harper for not spending more.
Trudeau added over 60 billion to the debt before covid.

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2181 on: June 10, 2022, 12:23:52 pm »
the business of Liberal governing business - Bill C-19 passed 3rd reading/adopted June 9th:
=> BILL C-19 An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022 and other measures


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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2182 on: June 10, 2022, 04:18:58 pm »
Liberal MP lies to parliament

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-if-the-minister-misled-parliament-he-has-to-go/

The funny thing, is that there no need to lie at all.  Canadians were firmly behind invoking the Emergencies Act.  Why are they shooting themselves in the foot about this?

geezaz member squiggy is back to his censoring ways... his deleting posts way! The waldo post that member squiggy just had to delete - wonder why, hey ya freakin' dickwad weasel! As follows, the deleted post member squiggy didn't care for - LOL!


hey now member squiggy - notwithstanding the usual bloviating CPC/Conservative bias that is Andrew Coyne, does the definitiveness of the OP thread title mirror what Coyne actually writes:

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Of course, I can’t say with certainty the minister lied. I can’t know precisely what his state of mind was. Maybe there’s some construction of events that can be reconciled with his statements: either that the police asked for the Emergencies Act, or as he now maintains, that they asked for the “powers” therein. Who knows: maybe the cops are lying.

well does it?

and this warrants a thread of its own... when there are multiple threads on the 'freedumb convoy' and/or Emergencies Act?

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2183 on: June 10, 2022, 04:45:52 pm »
the business of Liberal governing business - Bill C-19 passed 3rd reading/adopted June 9th:
=> BILL C-19 An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022 and other measures

key measures of Bill C-19:

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2184 on: June 10, 2022, 04:54:12 pm »
Can't wait to curl up on the couch tonight and read all this waldoganda.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2185 on: June 10, 2022, 04:56:22 pm »
Can't wait to curl up on the couch tonight and read all this waldoganda.

you're sayin' you want more... moooore!


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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2186 on: June 10, 2022, 05:57:52 pm »
Strongest growth?  We have an oil dependant economy and gas is $2 a litter and up worldwide because of Russian aggression.  WTF does that have to do with the Libs? Besides driving up said gas prices with sanctions and carbon taxes.

And yeah easy to lead in deficit reduction when you had one of the biggest deficits last year in the G7 to begin with.

Debt to GDP?  Yeah now do household debt to GDP.  Canada has the highest % of income spent on mortgages per capita in the developed world.  #thanksLiberals
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2187 on: June 11, 2022, 12:21:32 pm »
Strongest growth?

c'mon Nipples! If you have doubts or skepticism over those 2022 & 2023 'strongest growth' projections for Canada compared to other G7 countries, perhaps you should attempt to question/counter those projections coming from the OECD, the IMF and Moody's - yes?

Yeah now do household debt to GDP.  Canada has the highest % of income spent on mortgages per capita in the developed world.  #thanksLiberals

oh my! Are you seriously comparing government debt management to... household debt? Really? Geezaz Nipples, that's just dumb!

Government-Household analogy:
 
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The Government-House analogy refers to rhetoric in political economic discourse that compares the finances of a federal government to those of a household. The analogy has frequently been made in debates about government debt, with critics of government debt arguing that greater government debt is equivalent to a household taking on more debt.

The analogy has been characterized by economists as misleading and false, as the functions and constraints of governments and households are vastly dissimilar. Differences include that governments can print money, interest rates on government borrowing may be cheaper than individual borrowing, governments can increase their budgets through taxation, governments have indefinite planning horizons, national debt may be held primarily domestically (the equivalent of household members owing each other), governments typically have greater collateral for borrowing, and contractions in government spending can cause or prolong economic crises and increase the debt of the government. For governments, the main risks of overspending may revolve around inflation rather than the size of the debt per se.

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2188 on: June 16, 2022, 04:24:37 am »
c'mon Nipples! If you have doubts or skepticism over those 2022 & 2023 'strongest growth' projections for Canada compared to other G7 countries, perhaps you should attempt to question/counter those projections coming from the OECD, the IMF and Moody's - yes?

still waiting Nipples, still waiting!

oh my! Are you seriously comparing government debt management to... household debt? Really? Geezaz Nipples, that's just dumb!

Government-Household analogy:

only an unknowing simpleton like Nipples would even attempt such an analogy. Clearly his silence here... is golden!

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2189 on: June 20, 2022, 07:11:24 pm »
Trudeau shirking inflation fight. Scotiabank states the obvious, increased government spending is inflationary and the resulting increase in interest rates penalize the public and business.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trudeau-is-shirking-canada-s-inflation-fight-scotiabank-1.1781115
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