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Offline MH

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Government Day-to-Day
« on: December 05, 2019, 05:10:37 am »
Or for this government ... day BY day.

Minority government boots up today, and CBC radio says our main issues will be:

- National Unity
- Carbon policy
- Middle class tax cuts

Really it seems to me we are less and less like the US every day.  I would like us to have First Nations policy more front and centre too.

And... how long will this government last ?  And how long with Scheer last ?

More fun boredom to come ! :D

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Offline queenmandy85

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2019, 07:25:33 am »
One scenario is it is in both Trudeau's and Sheer's interest to trigger a snap election asap. It would give Mr. Sheer a second shot before he's booted and Mr. Trudeau a chance to regain a majority. This is why nobody has ever solicited my input into political strategy.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2019, 11:21:34 am »
One scenario is it is in both Trudeau's and Sheer's interest to trigger a snap election asap. It would give Mr. Sheer a second shot before he's booted and Mr. Trudeau a chance to regain a majority. This is why nobody has ever solicited my input into political strategy.
Or maybe they could just do their jobs.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2019, 05:04:14 pm »
One scenario is it is in both Trudeau's and Sheer's interest to trigger a snap election asap. It would give Mr. Sheer a second shot before he's booted and Mr. Trudeau a chance to regain a majority. This is why nobody has ever solicited my input into political strategy.
Problem with that scenario: Elections cost money, and it might be hard for any of the parties to fundraise so soon after the last election. (The problem would be worse for the Liberals, since the conservatives tend to collect the most contributions.)
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Offline Granny

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2019, 12:24:32 pm »
One scenario is it is in both Trudeau's and Sheer's interest to trigger a snap election asap. It would give Mr. Sheer a second shot before he's booted and Mr. Trudeau a chance to regain a majority. This is why nobody has ever solicited my input into political strategy.

Highly unlikely: Scheer is a lame duck, under fire from within his own party to step down. He would only stand to lose support.
And while that may seem like a good time for Trudeau to strike, it's unlikely that he would get support from any other parties to call an election for such predatory reasons, when all opposition parties prefer that Trudeau not have a majority.

It's important to remind ourselves that elections are not about politics: They're about governance.

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2019, 12:39:08 pm »
No, elections are about winning. Why do you assume Sheer would lose. If he learns from the last campaign, he could win. Besides, what does he have to lose? A lot changes during the 5 weeks of a campaign.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2019, 01:27:18 pm »
No, elections are about winning. Why do you assume Sheer would lose. If he learns from the last campaign, he could win. Besides, what does he have to lose? A lot changes during the 5 weeks of a campaign.
They are elected to govern. Governments that call elections just for political advantage should be punished.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2019, 02:44:52 pm »
They are elected to govern. Governments that call elections just for political advantage should be punished.

That is what I said in fall 2008.
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Offline Granny

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2019, 03:44:52 pm »
No, elections are about winning. Why do you assume Sheer would lose. If he learns from the last campaign, he could win. Besides, what does he have to lose? A lot changes during the 5 weeks of a campaign.

Elections are about forming a government.

Scheer has lost support among his own party members. They are trying to get rid of him, but he refuses to step down.

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2019, 07:28:47 pm »
That is what I said in fall 2008.

Both parties have done it. Chretien smelled blood when Stockwell Day became the Alliance leader and wasted no time capitalizing on that weakness. On the other hand, fixed election dates can't apply to minorities because they would give the opposition parties sole control over forcing an election. Right now there is valid no reason to call an election.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2019, 08:29:31 pm »
Jody Wilson-Raybauld thinks she deserves governing-party sized offices despite the fact that she is on the very bottom of the list to get an office.   What a buffoon.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-rota-speaker-1.5395567

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2019, 02:18:55 pm »
Morneau says the economy is rosy but will increase debt by 55 billion over the next two years anyway. I though the budget was supposed to balance itself by now.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2019, 06:56:59 pm »
Morneau says the economy is rosy but will increase debt by 55 billion over the next two years anyway. I though the budget was supposed to balance itself by now.

Not when they promise tax breaks....

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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2019, 07:35:29 pm »
Not when they promise tax breaks....

I know, so why BS people about balancing budgets? They never had any intention of balancing a budget and don't in future.
Trudeau is on track for adding 105 billion to the debt in five years with no commitment to ever balancing a budget. That's just as well because based on past performance, it wouldn't mean anything anyway.
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Re: Government Day-to-Day
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2019, 07:40:51 pm »
I know, so why BS people about balancing budgets? They never had any intention of balancing a budget and don't in future.
Trudeau is on track for adding 105 billion to the debt in five years with no commitment to ever balancing a budget. That's just as well because based on past performance, it wouldn't mean anything anyway.

The Cons were no different....   promising tax breaks and no way to pay for them.  They were absolutely no different than the Libs this election.  Plus, they were even worse under Harper.