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Offline waldo

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2019, 03:55:54 pm »
We have waldo's Scheer-smear, Granny's "vote green" thread etc.

excuse me! Why would you call Scheer-smear when facts/factual accounts concerning weakSauce Scheer are presented? One would think a strong Scheer proponent as yourself would relish opportunities to address your perceived Scheer-smears... in the thread they're presented - no?

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2019, 02:49:47 pm »
Ah no, it's looking ahead to Scheer's likely hidden agenda again.

What?

That's exactly what they said about Harper, his government governed from the center or center-right.  It's fear-mongering.
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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2019, 02:58:57 pm »
What?

That's exactly what they said about Harper, his government governed from the center or center-right.  It's fear-mongering.

I hope you're right but I expect you're wrong. With regard to the abortion issue Scheer has said quite clearly during his campaign he would let the issue be reopened and of course then swapped ends after he won the nomination knowing full well it wouldn't bode well during a run for the top spot.

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2019, 02:59:08 pm »
excuse me! Why would you call Scheer-smear when facts/factual accounts concerning weakSauce Scheer are presented? One would think a strong Scheer proponent as yourself would relish opportunities to address your perceived Scheer-smears... in the thread they're presented - no?

I'm sorry you're offended by the fact that your Scheer thread has the sole purpose of attacking Scheer.  #weakSauce #milqueToast

I'm also not a strong Scheer proponent, i'm not a fan.  But compared to Trudeau he's Winston Churchill  :D
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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2019, 03:04:05 pm »
I hope you're right but I expect you're wrong. With regard to the abortion issue Scheer has said quite clearly during his campaign he would let the issue be reopened and of course then swapped ends after he won the nomination knowing full well it wouldn't bode well during a run for the top spot.

Even if he wanted to reopen abortion it would likely get struck down in the courts and then he wouldn't be   reelected.  Or if it went through, it would just be reversed by the next government and again he wouldn't be reelected.  This prevented Harper from touching these issues, strategically it would be a disaster.  Costs are high, benefits are low. 
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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2019, 03:06:34 pm »
compared to Trudeau he's Winston Churchill

Overweight with a drinking problem?
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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2019, 03:07:06 pm »
On a related note, why does the CPC keep making religious wingnuts their leader?
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Offline Omni

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2019, 03:31:48 pm »
Even if he wanted to reopen abortion it would likely get struck down in the courts and then he wouldn't be   reelected.  Or if it went through, it would just be reversed by the next government and again he wouldn't be reelected.  This prevented Harper from touching these issues, strategically it would be a disaster.  Costs are high, benefits are low.

I guess if it got struck down by the next government then he would already have not been reelected. Just a logistical item for ya.

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2019, 05:27:28 am »
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/the-latest-338canada-projection-so-long-tory-lead/

This seems like the 'general' thread on the election.  And the polls show that 'week sauce' has pissed away his seat projection lead.

Works for me.

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2019, 07:57:51 am »
On a related note, why does the CPC keep making religious wingnuts their leader?
Because these are the party's values. That's who their membership wants representing them. If that doesn't represent you, then maybe the party actually doesn't represent you.

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2019, 12:23:00 pm »
I don't think he will **** any babies but he may head down the road to making sure any unwanted pregnancies aren't allowed access to proper medical care for termination so back we go to knitting needles in back alleys.

Scheer's personal stance, and that of his constituents aside, Scheer, like Harper, is savvy enough to know that anti-abortion legislation or campaigning just won't fly anymore. The anti-abortionists are a small group, vocal perhaps, but not powerful.
And any of them who are Male have no credibility, so that leaves a VERY small group. Lol

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2019, 12:27:05 pm »
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And any of them who are Male have no credibility...

Why is that?

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2019, 01:12:23 pm »
Scheer's personal stance, and that of his constituents aside, Scheer, like Harper, is savvy enough to know that anti-abortion legislation or campaigning just won't fly anymore. The anti-abortionists are a small group, vocal perhaps, but not powerful.
And any of them who are Male have no credibility, so that leaves a VERY small group. Lol

Let me say from the start start that I am in agreement with the current situation surrounding abortion in Canada. But I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the male feelings on the issue. They have just as much clout at the ballot box as women. And while Scheer has publicly stated he won't open the debate, he said the very opposite when he was campaigning for the party leadership. I am damn sure he has a very good handle on the fact that there is rising support for some sort of abortion law, and a cabinet minister or back bencher could forward a motion at any time. I won't let my guard down and I'm a male. 

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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2019, 03:07:51 pm »
Why is that?

You really have to ask?  Lol

I think temporart vasectomies should be mandatory for all young men, to avoid unwanted pregnancies. They can be reversed for wanted pregnancies, once they qualify with homes and sufficient salaries to support a family.

This unwanted random spreading of viable sperm has to stop! 

I'll make sure the committee is stacked with women.
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Re: Federal Election 2019
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2019, 03:13:32 pm »
Let me say from the start start that I am in agreement with the current situation surrounding abortion in Canada. But I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the male feelings on the issue. They have just as much clout at the ballot box as women. And while Scheer has publicly stated he won't open the debate, he said the very opposite when he was campaigning for the party leadership. I am damn sure he has a very good handle on the fact that there is rising support for some sort of abortion law, and a cabinet minister or back bencher could forward a motion at any time. I won't let my guard down and I'm a male.

I have no problem with men supporting women's choices.

I have a real problem with men trying to make women's choices for them.

I have no fear of any legislation coming forward. There is little likelihood of it passing.
I think Scheer, like Harper, will avoid that issue.