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Offline waldo

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #375 on: September 29, 2021, 12:32:03 pm »
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What exactly is your point?

I never denied that there were sources in Canada that leaned to the political right. In fact I even proactively stated as much.

What I said was that while there were right wing sources, they are balanced by sources that exist on the political left.

Yes, the various newspapers in the Sun newspaper chain lean to the political right. Guilty of charged. I even said as much before you posted your little graphic. Heck, I can even point out some right wing sources that your cheezy little graphic didn't include.

my point? That you, apparently, don't realize there no longer is a, as you say, 'Sun newspaper chain'! Hence the graphic that you're so futzed about... the graphic that represents Postmedia's reach and endorsement of Conservative CPC/O'Toole. Try a googly for the 2015 purchase of Sun media by Postmedia... you're welcome! Postmedia, the largest print and digital media presence in Canada!

the balance you claim doesn't exist. Targeting the CBC is a dated lazy tactic; again, try a googly on the 2008/2015 act by Harper to appoint 9 (of 11) CBC board members... who all donated to the CPC; who all were Conservative loyalists. Today's CBC is, as the saying goes, "not your grandfather's CBC"! Today's CBC is more vested in "both siding stories", and failing in doing so; rather than presenting open & transparent fact based journalism. Your suggestion that MacLeans is "left wing" is laughable... certainly not the way they've, of late, gone after the Liberal party and PM Trudeau! To suggest CTV news is left-wing is also false - evidence Evan Solomon and the biased panels he regularly trots out! I have much more but... I'll give you time to regroup and try again!

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #376 on: September 29, 2021, 12:40:53 pm »
And aside from you no one seems to like him very much.

whaaa! No one likes the guy who has led his party to 3 consecutive election wins!

How are you guys going to buy elections when the money runs out, Wally?

#printMoMoney - oh wait, the waldo recently showcased that the BoC doesn't print money... it's all about balance sheet tallies, hey! In any case, care to present a summary accounting of each parties costed election promises? I realize it might be a tad harder for you given the CPC only released costing with 2 weeks left in the campaign... and even then didn't cost out several key (and guaranteed costly) promises. But try your best - try to support this your latest piece of unsubstantiated nothingness!

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« Reply #377 on: September 29, 2021, 01:04:38 pm »
Didn't happen. Aside from a few conservative minded columnists those newspapers remain quite centrist. And even the conservative columnists aren't all that conservative. There are no shrill voices like you see from some of the American conservative media figures. The only shrill voices come from places like the Toronto Star and CBC.

shrill is your measure? LOL! Care to name your claimed TorStar & CBC 'shrill voices'... name the names, hey!

try these on for conservative leaning: LilleyPad (aka Brian Lilley), Lorne Gunter, Lorrie Goldstein, Warren Kinsella (yes, that's right - he has gone to dark side... long ago!!!), Andrew Coyne, Chris Selley, Colby Cosh, Barbara Kay, Diane Francis (big time waste of Financial Times space), of course Rex Murphy, Don Baird, Ezrant (aka Ezra Levant, shrillManExtraordinaire), Keean Bexte (miniShrillMan), Don Martin, Robert Fife (kingAzzhole), John Ibbitson, John Ivison (another megaAzzole), David Akin, Craig Oliver, Evan Solomon, Mercedes Stephenson... and, typically, anyone writing for, 'The Post Millennial', the latest rage-baiter for the right-wing, etc., etc., etc..

Offline The Cynic

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #378 on: September 29, 2021, 03:49:12 pm »
I will accept that the CBC *may* be left-wing if you accept that they have barely any editorial content - and that content is itself balanced.  I can only recall Rex Murphy and Neil MacDonald opining there.

Their 'editorial content' is in their selective story coverage, how they tell those stories, and in how they treat different political views and parties. Witness Rosemary Barton's hardball interviews with Jagmeet Singh and Erin O'toole and then her fawning, softball questions to Justin Trudeau.

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #379 on: September 29, 2021, 03:52:19 pm »
In any case, care to present a summary accounting of each parties costed election promises? I realize it might be a tad harder for you given the CPC only released costing with 2 weeks left in the campaign... and even then didn't cost out several key (and guaranteed costly) promises. But try your best - try to support this your latest piece of unsubstantiated nothingness!

Why? Your party doesn't do half the stuff it says it will do and doesn't tell us about half the stuff it intends to do. They're not exactly an open and transparent bunch, y'know, Wally.

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« Reply #380 on: September 29, 2021, 04:05:51 pm »
I will accept that the CBC *may* be left-wing if you accept that they have barely any editorial content

I can only recall Rex Murphy and Neil MacDonald opining there.
Rex Murphy....isn't that some kind of ancient dinosaur?

Seriously though, he's gone off the rails the last few years. I used to agree with a good amount of the stuff he opined with.

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« Reply #381 on: September 29, 2021, 04:09:24 pm »
Why? Your party doesn't do half the stuff it says it will do and doesn't tell us about half the stuff it intends to do. They're not exactly an open and transparent bunch, y'know, Wally.

but hey now, governments do 'get stuff done', whether one likes said stuff or not - here's a dose of that reality courtesy of ongoing election platform analysis undertaken by Universite Lavalís Centre for Public Policy Analysis; the 2 most recent majority government's in greater position to act upon policy intent statements:

=> 41st Parliament of Conservative Stephen Harper - 2011 to 2015: The Harper government completely met 77% of its election pledges, delivered in part on 7% and broke 16%.

=> 42nd Parliament of Liberal Justin Trudeau - 2015 to 2019: The Trudeau government entirely fulfilled 53.5% of its election pledges, delivered in part on 38.5% and broke 8%.

note: these figures on their own do not support direct comparison; for example, the Liberal 42nd Parliament included almost 5 times as many policy intent pledges than the Conservative 41st Parliament. More pointedly, the analysis states a significant number of the Liberal pledges were transformative (restructuring a system itself rather than reforming some relationship within the existing structure) versus the majority of Conservative pledges were transactional (working within an existing set of institutional & structural arrangements).

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #382 on: September 30, 2021, 10:38:11 pm »


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« Reply #383 on: October 04, 2021, 01:21:16 pm »
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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #384 on: October 06, 2021, 06:06:22 pm »
geezaz, O'Toole actually claims he/CPC lost because the pandemic prevented CPC supporters from voting... unfortunately passiveMedia didn't think on its feet to ask O'Toole why the pandemic, apparently, didn't impact upon the ability of other parties to GOTV!

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« Reply #385 on: October 07, 2021, 03:31:39 pm »
photo at the just ended CPC 2-day caucus meeting that focused on election results and the plight of leader O'Toole going forward!

yowzers waldo, talk about 'white is right & white-privilege'! LOL!



? O'Toole is either licking his wounds or else taking the photo! /snarc


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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #386 on: October 08, 2021, 05:53:21 pm »
photo at the just ended CPC 2-day caucus meeting that focused on election results and the plight of leader O'Toole going forward!

yowzers waldo, talk about 'white is right & white-privilege'! LOL!



? O'Toole is either licking his wounds or else taking the photo! /snarc

Oh how you Liberals hate 'old stock' Canadians. Got to get more immigrants into the cabinet! Even the ones who think the Taliban are our brothers!

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« Reply #387 on: October 08, 2021, 11:37:44 pm »
Oh how you Liberals hate 'old stock' Canadians. Got to get more immigrants into the cabinet! Even the ones who think the Taliban are our brothers!

your brother waldo does not expect you to thank him for taking the time to correct your misunderstandings!

=> firstly, former PM Harper explained his use of the label 'old stock Canadian':
Quote from: former Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper
The term refers to Canadians who have been the descendants of immigrants for one or more generations.
... the waldo pointing out the CPC caucus is overwhelmingly Caucasian doesn't directly correlate to 2nd+ generational immigration.

=> secondly, as a cultural aspect, Iranian ethnic Pashtun's in Afghanistan refer to their brothers and sisters in Islam.

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #388 on: October 09, 2021, 05:02:24 pm »

=> firstly, former PM Harper explained his use of the label 'old stock Canadian': ... the waldo pointing out the CPC caucus is overwhelmingly Caucasian doesn't directly correlate to 2nd+ generational immigration.

And 2+ generation Canadians are overwhelmingly white. Wall-E.

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« Reply #389 on: October 10, 2021, 12:51:38 am »
And 2+ generation Canadians are overwhelmingly white.

duh! You're the one making an association between 'old stock' and immigration... re-read you post, hey! And buddy, the caucus isn't cabinet! Try again, try harder!

Oh how you Liberals hate 'old stock' Canadians. Got to get more immigrants into the cabinet!