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Offline BC_cheque

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« Reply #360 on: September 28, 2021, 12:21:03 am »
Waldo doesn’t understand how someone couldn’t worship their party leader!  There is nothing he wouldn’t do for his glorious leader Justin.

What was he like on the old board, I don't remember.  Was he like this with Ignatieff and Dion too? 

I picture him at his computer with a shrine of Trudeau posters all around.

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« Reply #361 on: September 28, 2021, 12:21:18 am »
...the Liberal Party can kiss my butt... I just choose the most palatable of the bunch and the last few elections that was NDP.

says you who stated Singh was/is the most popular leader. Given you've repeatedly expressed your hate-on for PM Trudeau, your 'Liberal party can kiss my butt' comment isn't surprising at all. But hey now: if you're going to chirp the waldo while repeatedly talking up Singh and the NDP in posted comments, you might expect to be challenged to support party policy... to support election platform policy. More pointedly be challenged to validate the lies and misinformation Singh repeatedly stated during the campaign. In the face of your multiple posts supporting Singh & the NDP you can't now revert to claiming to be just another "low information voter" who doesn't vote by party policy... instead choosing the most, as you say, "palatable" candidate. That's so sad & pathetic!

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« Reply #362 on: September 28, 2021, 12:29:23 am »
says you who stated Singh was/is the most popular leader. Given you've repeatedly expressed your hate-on for PM Trudeau, your 'Liberal party can kiss my butt' comment isn't surprising at all. But hey now: if you're going to chirp the waldo while repeatedly talking up Singh and the NDP in posted comments, you might expect to be challenged to support party policy... to support election platform policy. More pointedly be challenged to validate the lies and misinformation Singh repeatedly stated during the campaign. In the face of your multiple posts supporting Singh & the NDP you can't now revert to claiming to be just another "low information voter" who doesn't vote by party policy... instead choosing the most, as you say, "palatable" candidate. That's so sad & pathetic!

I said he had the highest 'net approval'.  Do you know what that means?




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« Reply #363 on: September 28, 2021, 12:31:02 am »
Waldo doesn’t understand how someone couldn’t worship their party leader!  There is nothing he wouldn’t do for his glorious leader Justin.

member squiggy, I care so little for your posts that I didn't pick up on who you even voted for this go-round - do tell, do tell! Please tell me you once again voted Green! LOL!

But I do recall your support/vote for the Green Party in 2019... mostly cause the waldo repeatedly showcased just how weak the Green "Mission Possible Improbable" climate action plan was... and just how lame-azzed your support for that policy plan was.

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« Reply #364 on: September 28, 2021, 12:39:20 am »
Trudeau could shoot someone on Yonge Street and Waldo would still vote for him.

#CultOfTrudeau
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« Reply #365 on: September 28, 2021, 01:06:11 am »
I picture him at his computer with a shrine of Trudeau posters all around.
Trudeau could shoot someone on Yonge Street and Waldo would still vote for him. #CultOfTrudeau

for all the haters, like you, and in spite of ConMedia attempts to influence the election outcome towards the CPC, PM Trudeau has now defeated 3 Conservative leaders in 3 successive elections - Harper, Scheer and O'Toole! As evidenced by your above comments, PM Trudeau causes you and your ilk great anguish and distress!

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« Reply #366 on: September 28, 2021, 10:48:49 am »
for all the haters, like you, and in spite of ConMedia attempts...
Ummm... "ConMedia"?

In my opinion, Canada doesn't really have a "conservative media bias".

Yes, we do have some sources that lean to the political right (the Sun newspaper chain). But we also have sources that lean to the left (for example, the Toronto Star. And according to MediaBiasFactCheck, the CBC also has a 'left wing' bias.) And CTV News is actually rated 'Least Biased'.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

Taken as a whole, our media is pretty darn centrist.

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to influence the election outcome towards the CPC, PM Trudeau has now defeated 3 Conservative leaders in 3 successive elections - Harper, Scheer and O'Toole!
Yes he did. I am actually not that surprised. Prime Ministers usually last ~8-10 years before they get replaced.  Plus, Trudeau has a built-in advantage... he's from Quebec, and Quebecers tend to favor their own in federal elections.

Heck, if anything, I am surprised Trudeau was reduced from a Majority to a minority in the 2019 election.
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« Reply #367 on: September 28, 2021, 11:25:23 am »
a common point in many post-election analysis of the NDP's... shortcomings: that leader Singh never acknowledged the NDP had no change in winning; something that would have added credence to the theme that the NDP would be there to keep tabs on and work to pressure the winning government (either Liberal or CPC). Instead Singh repeatedly stated he was running to become Prime Minister - a most fanciful fantasy trip indeed; one that was laughable to any plugged in politico and emphasized even more so that this iteration of the NDP isn't a serious party!

speaking of NDP flights of fancy:


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« Reply #368 on: September 28, 2021, 11:34:26 am »
In my opinion, Canada doesn't really have a "conservative media bias".

Yes, we do have some sources that lean to the political right (the Sun newspaper chain).



see the 'U.S. hedge fund' takeover of Postmedia... Postmedia’s plan to shape their newspapers’ coverage

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...in October 2018, Postmedia’s then-president and now CEO, Andrew MacLeod, called a meeting and told National Post editors the publication was “insufficiently conservative.”
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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #369 on: September 28, 2021, 11:52:16 am »
for all the haters, like you, and in spite of ConMedia attempts to influence the election outcome towards the CPC, PM Trudeau has now defeated 3 Conservative leaders in 3 successive elections - Harper, Scheer and O'Toole! As evidenced by your above comments, PM Trudeau causes you and your ilk great anguish and distress!

What happens when the money runs out? He's been buying elections with tens of billions in gifts to everyone he thinks might vote Liberal. Inflation is starting to pick up, the debt is skyrocketing. And aside from you no one seems to like him very much.

How are you guys going to buy elections when the money runs out, Wally?

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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #370 on: September 28, 2021, 11:55:31 am »


see the 'U.S. hedge fund' takeover of Postmedia... Postmedia’s plan to shape their newspapers’ coverage

Didn't happen. Aside from a few conservative minded columnists those newspapers remain quite centrist. And even the conservative columnists aren't all that conservative. There are no shrill voices like you see from some of the American conservative media figures. The only shrill voices come from places like the Toronto Star and CBC.

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« Reply #371 on: September 28, 2021, 05:36:26 pm »
Rex Murphy and Conrad Black seem pretty shrill to me.

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« Reply #372 on: September 28, 2021, 06:42:51 pm »
Rex Murphy and Conrad Black seem pretty shrill to me.

Murphy is a curmudgeon, not shrill. I can't figure out what Black is. I like his diction. Sometimes he writes something I think is brilliant and inciteful, usually when he decides to agree with me. Other times I think he's gone senile or was driven most of the way crazy in prison. Most of his stuff is too lofty to be called shrill. He's an unapologetic old school upper class conservative, something you don't see much of in North America.

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« Reply #373 on: September 29, 2021, 09:39:29 am »
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In my opinion, Canada doesn't really have a "conservative media bias".

Yes, we do have some sources that lean to the political right (the Sun newspaper chain).
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see the 'U.S. hedge fund' takeover of Postmedia... Postmedia’s plan to shape their newspapers’ coverage
What exactly is your point?

I never denied that there were sources in Canada that leaned to the political right. In fact I even proactively stated as much.

What I said was that while there were right wing sources, they are balanced by sources that exist on the political left.

Yes, the various newpapers in the Sun newspaper chain lean to the political right. Guilty of charged. I even said as much before you posted your little graphic. Heck, I can even point out some right wing sources that your cheezy little graphic didn't include.

But for all those right-wing sources, you have left-wing sources:
- The TORSTAR-related papers (including the Toronto Star, one of the biggest daily newspapers in Canada, as well as smaller papers in places like Hamilton, Brampton, etc.)
- Other newspapers such as the Lethbridge Herald or Barrie Today
- Weekly or monthly sources like Maclean's magazine or La Presse
- The CBC, which is available in virtually every single household in canada
- Other TV/Broadcast/Web services, such as Global News, News 1130, APTN news, or iPolitics

Now, when I look at that list, do I say "Oh no! Canada's media is filled with left-wing commie sources in the same vein as Pravda!" No, I don't. I look at it as a balance... Those left wing sources balance out right wing sources.

Plus, as I mentioned, before, there are also sources that are generally unbiased... CTV News, Le Devoir, CP24.

(Analysis is from mediabiasfactcheck.com)

ETA: I find it a little ironic, in your little claim about how "right wing" our media is, you link to an article in the National Observer, a web site that leans to the political left.
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Re: 2021 Election Campaign
« Reply #374 on: September 29, 2021, 12:07:03 pm »
I will accept that the CBC *may* be left-wing if you accept that they have barely any editorial content - and that content is itself balanced.  I can only recall Rex Murphy and Neil MacDonald opining there.