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Offline ?Impact

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Re: Election 2019: Do something different!
« Reply #420 on: October 01, 2019, 12:27:33 pm »
Waldo - call the squid THE SQUID. 

Squid - stop calling names.

Annoy each other, please, not the rest of us.

I believe the Waldo has used the third person on himself, has the Squid ever done likewise?

Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #421 on: October 01, 2019, 12:47:08 pm »
I believe the Waldo has used the third person on himself, has the Squid ever done likewise?

How posts The Hardner ?

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« Reply #422 on: October 02, 2019, 11:13:03 am »
the Hardner has it bad/hard for the waldo!
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« Reply #423 on: October 02, 2019, 11:30:31 am »
"The $47 Trillion Death Sentence For Oil & Gas

The future of hydrocarbons is becoming bleak if plans presented by international banks, representing around $47 trillion in value, will be fully implemented.

It's happening, folks. I've always believed in the market: When trends and demands change, the market follows. The entrepreneurial spirit will always go where the money is going.

does this mean May/GP will lower the saving humanity defcon level?

don't do it waldo... don't be a debbieDowner... stop... no..........

cause facts matter in regards that UN initiative:

- about a 1/3 of global international banks signed
- only 3 of the worlds top 10 banks signed
- only 1 top U.S. bank signed
- none of Canada's 'Big 5' signed
- signatories will have 4 years to complete their own self-assessment - {4 years... oh the humanity! }
- there are no preset commitment requirements - no binding regulations

by the by, it seems the biggest of Big Oil are kinda likin' this "de-investment thingee"... it's allowing them to swoop in and grab the failing "little guys" for peanuts! Hey member Granny, when you say, "you've always believed in the market"... can we say, 'market consolidation'?

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« Reply #424 on: October 04, 2019, 01:46:35 am »
May/GP "Mission Improbable" plan receives C- grade for feasibility

so much ambition, so little feasibility - oh the humanity! ;D



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« Reply #425 on: October 05, 2019, 03:26:27 pm »
May/GP "Mission Improbable" plan receives C- grade for feasibility

so much ambition, so little feasibility - oh the humanity! ;D




It's pretty clear that Liberals wrote that.
"A" for feasibility ... when it also states that it "won't get them to their goals".
Ya, very feasible If you accomplish virtually nothing. Lolol

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« Reply #426 on: October 05, 2019, 03:32:33 pm »
Do you want a party that stretches itself and may not get all the way there, or do you want a party that sets the bar low so they can achieve their target?
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« Reply #427 on: October 05, 2019, 03:52:23 pm »
Do you want a party that stretches itself and may not get all the way there, or do you want a party that sets the bar low so they can achieve their target?

How did the Conservatives get an "F" for feasibility?  If they do hardly anything compared to other parties, that sounds like a pretty easy goal!

How do the Greens get a C- for feasibility?  Their goals are next to impossible.  "A Green government will pass into law a Climate Change Act requiring a 60 per cent cut in climate-changing emissions below 2005 levels by 2030".

In 10 years???  Good luck!  No new oil drilling?  Good luck getting AB to agree to that!  These authors are smoking the BC green bud.  I give the Liberals credit for trying to do something but not bringing down the country to do it.
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« Reply #428 on: October 05, 2019, 05:00:44 pm »
It's pretty clear that Liberals wrote that. "A" for feasibility ... when it also states that it "won't get them to their goals".

Ya, very feasible If you accomplish virtually nothing. Lolol

your quoted comment simply showcases your lack of knowledge/understanding. You should really strive to be more than just a May/GP cheerleader!

I cite the 2 authors of the analysis - shown clearly and precisely! They are both well recognized/acknowledged... and valued for their knowledge/experience. Your ignorant comment simply acts to demean them. Be... do better!

Katherine Hayhoe - a Canadian atmospheric scientist; presently a professor of political science at Texas Tech University; director of the TTU Climate Science Center => over 200+ scientific publications as author/co-author

Andrew Leach - an energy and environmental economist; presently an associate professor at the Alberta School of Business at the University of Alberta => Curriculum vitae

the reference to not reaching a goal... is with regard to one goal of many; specifically the just announced (2-weeks ago) plan for net-zero emissions by 2050... a like target made by May/GP as a part of their "Mission Improbable" NOTaPLAN!

perhaps progress reports from the Pan-Canadian Framework would shut your trap-hole... but... let's start with the following and have you show just how naive and 'knowledge lacking' you truly are - yes:


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« Reply #429 on: October 05, 2019, 05:13:46 pm »
Do you want a party that stretches itself and may not get all the way there, or do you want a party that sets the bar low so they can achieve their target?

your comment is moot! The Green Party can stretch forevah... it's quite obviously not a question of, as you say, "not getting all the way there". There's no "there" there for the Green Party - and I expect there never will be a governing national Green Party in Canada - which is presently projected nationally at 10% popular vote & 4 seats. Send Lizzie to the farm-team; call up Weaver and the GP outlook improves a brazillion!

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« Reply #430 on: October 05, 2019, 05:39:54 pm »

In 10 years???  Good luck!  No new oil drilling?  Good luck getting AB to agree to that! 
It isn't a question of agreement anymore.
It's just a reality that investors are nervous about fossil fuels, and divestment is growing:
https://www.ft.com/content/4dec2ce0-d0fc-11e9-99a4-b5ded7a7fe3f
Sharp rise in number of investors dumping fossil fuel stocks
Paris climate accord has been a massive boon to the global divestment campaign.
The number of institutional investors committed to cutting fossil fuel stocks from their portfolios has risen from 180 in 2014 to more than 1,100 now, as activists turn up the heat on companies over climate change.

The number of fossil fuel divestments have risen dramatically since the 2015 Paris agreement on combating climate change. In 2014, investors with a total $52bn in assets under management had agreed to shed their fossil fuel holdings. Now that group represents more than $11tn in total assets, according to a report from 350.org, an environmental organisation advocating for divestment. More than 900 additional investors, including asset managers, pensions and insurers, have pledged to divest since the year before the Paris accord.

There has been a shift in the way people think about their investments’ impact, especially after the Paris agreement, said Ahmed Mokgopo, a divestment campaigner at 350.org and co-author of the report.
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Re: Election 2019: Do something different!
« Reply #431 on: October 05, 2019, 07:49:10 pm »
your comment is moot! The Green Party can stretch forevah... it's quite obviously not a question of, as you say, "not getting all the way there". There's no "there" there for the Green Party - and I expect there never will be a governing national Green Party in Canada - which is presently projected nationally at 10% popular vote & 4 seats. Send Lizzie to the farm-team; call up Weaver and the GP outlook improves a brazillion!

Greens only have to hold the balance of power to influence legislation.

Legislation switching 30% of fossil fuel subsidies to renewables is enough that market forces will do the rest.


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« Reply #433 on: October 06, 2019, 11:03:31 pm »
https://ipolitics.ca/2019/10/03/greens-second-costed-budget-gets-a-pass-from-parliaments-former-budget-officer/

They scored a 9.5 out of 18.  They passed by a hair, just over 50%.  And they failed the 2nd of 3 principles "responsible fiscal management".

They're going to increase the budget by 74 billion, an over 20% increase, and will tax corporations and the rich to do it.  It might work, it might also bludgeon the economy.

https://ifsd.ca/en/blog/last-page-blog/green-2019-platform-2
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« Reply #434 on: October 07, 2019, 12:58:09 pm »
needed a do-over!  ;D

They're going to increase the budget by 74 billion, an over 20% increase, and will tax corporations and the rich to do it.  It might work, it might also bludgeon the economy.

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For these reasons we find the Green Party’s revised platform costing to be based on clear assumptions, that are relatively transparent but which are not defensible from a medium-term fiscal strategy perspective given the enormous levels of uncertainty