Author Topic: Editorial-- sniper shot is no cause for celebration.  (Read 923 times)

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Offline Hal 9000

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It's incredible how many times Sweden's **** statistics can be explained to you, but you continue to run with your bullshit alt-right narrative.

it's got nothing to do with **** stats.  Yes, some people argue that they've changed the stats to broaden the term, there are other reports that claim the opposite, that Sweden is trying to cover the actual stats.  What we know for sure, is that every time there is a large gathering, there are tremendous numbers of women coming forward with **** and assault claims.  To the point where events are being cancelled over it - women are tired of being assaulted, are they lying?.  What does it tell you that they are considering women only events - WTF does that say to you?  You've always been a big advocate for women's right's, what about now?   

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Next year's "Bravalla" cancelled after numerous sexual assaults at this year's event:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/03/swedens-bravalla-music-festival-cancelled-next-year-after-sex-attacks

And this isn't the first we heard about this problem.  Last year, not long after the outrageous events in Cologne, Swedish media discovered that police were aware of numerous sexual assaults at the "We Are Sthlm" music festival in 2014 and 2015 and didn't report them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_Sthlm_sexual_assaults
...and of course we're also aware that police and government officials attempted to hide the New Year's Eve events at Cologne and elsewhere from the public as well.

So no, this isn't just something the far-right media has invented.  This is something that exists, and you can decide for yourselves why mainstream media outlets have tried to pretend it doesn't.

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Offline Goddess

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So no, this isn't just something the far-right media has invented.  This is something that exists, and you can decide for yourselves why mainstream media outlets have tried to pretend it doesn't.

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Because if you point out what's happening, you're labelled an Islamophobe.
And if you'd like to avoid the same problems coming to Canada, you're labelled a racist.
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Offline MH

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Well... if I read the wikipedia page correctly, it has been a problem for some time.  And now that Muslims are doing it, we have the media and police wanting to not report it.

It seems like a censorship issue and attendant problem with public engagement first and foremost.  Agree ?

Offline SirJohn

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It's incredible how many times Sweden's **** statistics can be explained to you, but you continue to run with your bullshit alt-right narrative.

It's incredible how you refuse to accept, even after they admit it, that Sweden's media and left wing government are doing their very best to  cover up everything to do with this. The reports hardly come from 'alt right'. I don't even know any alt-right sources.

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Offline SirJohn

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it's got nothing to do with **** stats.  Yes, some people argue that they've changed the stats to broaden the term,

One thing which is undeniable and which the government does not try to deny. They changed the way **** statistics were collected to no longer collect information based on ethnicity, nationality or national origin.
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

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Music festivals and sexual assaults are not new, nor is hising the problem from the public.  But when it wasn't Muslims implicated, nobody cared.
http://www.mtv.com/news/516319/two-woodstock-fans-allegedly-raped-in-mosh-pits/

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/19-worst-things-about-woodstock-99-20140731

http://www.cbc.ca/1.3700522

But anyway, perhaps non-Muslim rapists will decide that they don't want to be considered barbaric, misogynistic, barbaric savages and will stop their sex assaults.   That would at least cut down on rapes and sexual assaults and everyone who blames Muslims for sexual assaults would be right.  Win-win. 

Except for Muslims who don't think sexual assault is all right of course, they would be guilty regardless, merely for being Muslim.




Offline cybercoma

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Conservatives only care when brown or black people ****, just like they only care about babies before they are born.

Offline MH

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For the record... this was about whether one could have a nuanced take on the issue of a celebrated sniper.

Then HAL indicated that this is being forced by Muslims and the issue drifted back to the same old same old... basically "Muslims are bad, if we don't kill them our civilization is doomed"

Yes, my characterization is hyperbole but - hey - I have to do something to bring some life to this shitty, boring topic that elicits 10,000 moronic posts a week on both sides.

Nobody is going to ban Muslims, it's not going to happen.  We're not going to turn into a Sharia kingdom in the near future, you must admit.



Offline Gorgeous Graham

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Conservatives only care when brown or black people ****, just like they only care about babies before they are born.

that's a pretty dumb thing to say.
I can tell how good of a person you are by how you treat the people you disagree with.

Offline Gorgeous Graham

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People in Canada and the West in general need to wake the hell up and realize that while many Muslims are moderate and good citizens, a sizeable portion have radical views.  ie: Countries like Saudi Arabia have horrible cultures founded on ultra-conservative & extreme interpretations of Islam.  Many Muslims aren't tolerant and aren't liberal, and I don't want those Muslims who think like this allowed in my country, because then you end up with a society like France and Britain where the radicals who refuse to assimilate start blowing us up.  This naive idealistic worldview of a multicultural utopia that Justin Trudeau and his father dreamed up needs a healthy dose of reality. 

These 2 videos will demonstrate my point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg&t=55s
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Offline waldo

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Many Muslims aren't tolerant and aren't liberal, and I don't want those Muslims who think like this allowed in my country, because then you end up with a society like France and Britain where the radicals who refuse to assimilate start blowing us up.  This naive idealistic worldview of a multicultural utopia that Justin Trudeau and his father dreamed up needs a healthy dose of reality.

uhhh... just what 'Justin dream' do you attach Canada's multiculturalism policy... of the 70s/80s... to?

what form does your implied Muslim Ban take - details man, we need details!

Offline Gorgeous Graham

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what form does your implied Muslim Ban take - details man, we need details!

If you have past ties to salafi/wahabi sunni Islam please keep out.  This ideology is what drives ISIS and al-Qaeda etc.  If we can't establish whether or not you have religious ties to these horrific ideologies then you don't get in.  If you're ie: a Syrian refugee and we can't establish your ideological background, you don't get in.
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Offline SirJohn

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Conservatives only care when brown or black people ****,

And progressives care about **** as long as the perp isn't brown or black.
You know, the stats on **** in the US are pretty unequivocal about racial ****, but you rarely see anyone but the far right bringing up the uncomfortable truths of which race is raping - and killing which.

And btw, Muslims aren't necessarily brown or black. Some of them are as white as I am. Many are indistinguishable from 'whites' or at least, from southern European whites.

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I hate to overrule myself (but I think I can do this).  The conversation about moderation has been moved to the administration part of the forum.