Author Topic: Editorial-- sniper shot is no cause for celebration.  (Read 2011 times)

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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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The "with us or against us" nonsense is also intellectually lazy.  You can be neither...  or a bit of both... 

Offline Hal 9000

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The "with us or against us" nonsense is also intellectually lazy.  You can be neither...  or a bit of both...

No, you cant.  There are only people who haven't had to get off the fence yet.  I guess that speaks to the freedoms that people over the years have earned for us.

Offline JMT

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No, you cant.  There are only people who haven't had to get off the fence yet.  I guess that speaks to the freedoms that people over the years have earned for us.

That's bull, quite frankly.  Life is full of nuance.  Black and white positions are quote possibly the major problem with politics today.

Offline Hal 9000

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That's bull, quite frankly.  Life is full of nuance.  Black and white positions are quote possibly the major problem with politics today.

The muslims are forcing the issue in Europe, and those affected are having to choose a side.  I know that people who sit on a fence are quite ready to tell the rest us how smarter, more enlightened they are, but that's just a facade, a luxury of being able to sit on the sidelines.  That isn't gonna be the case in Canada in a few years.  Muslims don't want to assimilate and won't, this is a culture war that is happening.  Problem is; the left doesn't know it.  "oh hey man, they want the same things as we do" - that all bull.  Does your 8YO know how to field strip an AK-47?  Are you sending your 12 YO to terrorist traing camps?  does you 15YO build bombs in his living room? 

Sitting on a fence and refusing to acknowledge the obvious is a choice, it's taking a side.

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You actually have no evidence for your accusations against Canadian Muslims being a problem 'in just a few years'. 

Until the world turns black and white I'll keep fence sitting.

Offline SirJohn

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I don't feel that I'm on a side.

In the context of a struggle of civilizations, of the belief our society should be structured as we do, or as the majority of the world's 1.6 billion Muslims would wish it, I think we pretty much all are on one side or the other. There really is no middle.
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Lots of Canadian Muslims do assimilate. Lots of Canadian-born Muslims are very Canadianized and don't give any visible indication that they're religious at all. I understand that in some areas with lots of newcomers, it's a common sight to see women walking around dressed in full tents and bags over their heads, but that isn't representative of all Muslims in Canada.

As for "black and white"... there's lots of room to debate things like "should Western forces be in the Middle East at all?" and "did we have a role in creating these extremists?" and so on.

But there are really no shades of grey when it comes to ISIS. They are the epitome of evil and need to be defeated. That part really is black and white.

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Offline Michael Hardner

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Is that the sides ?  Pro-ISIS or Anti-ISIS ?

If so, I am definitely AGAINST ISIS !

Offline Hal 9000

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Lots of Canadian Muslims do assimilate. Lots of Canadian-born Muslims are very Canadianized and don't give any visible indication that they're religious at all. I understand that in some areas with lots of newcomers, it's a common sight to see women walking around dressed in full tents and bags over their heads, but that isn't representative of all Muslims in Canada.

As for "black and white"... there's lots of room to debate things like "should Western forces be in the Middle East at all?" and "did we have a role in creating these extremists?" and so on.

But there are really no shades of grey when it comes to ISIS. They are the epitome of evil and need to be defeated. That part really is black and white.

 -k

Then those people aren't Islamists - obviously!  This isn't a question of brown people Vs. white people, it's about Islam - radical Islam.  Secondly, of course not all muslims are radical - not all germans were Nazis either.  Not every muslim is blowing up **** in Europe, not every muslim is raping women in Sweden, but there are enough to change political policy and the culture of a society.  The majority is always silent, but even in their silence, they will choose their side. 

Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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I'm sorry you live in such a scary world....  :o   but I'm glad your world isn't reality. 

Offline Hal 9000

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I'm sorry you live in such a scary world....  :o   but I'm glad your world isn't reality.

I'm not scared of anything, just disappointed that after every advancement in society, the western world will succumb to radical islamists.

BTW - Check out the new reality in Sweden where they are cancelling any - maybe all events where there are big gatherings

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Check out the new reality in Sweden where they are cancelling any - maybe all events where there are big gatherings

Did Breitbart tell you that?

Offline Hal 9000

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Did Breitbart tell you that?

CBC actually, then of course i did some research.  Some of the biggest are Bravalla, Earth hour and Xterra, however there are more, but I don't speak Swedish and don't want to give you bogus information.  There is talk of Sweden replacing the Music festival with a "no-men" festival.  So yeah, not scared...disappointed! 

Offline SirJohn

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Did Breitbart tell you that?

They are rescheduling a major music festival to be female only due to ongoing problems with sexual assault and harassment. They don't say this is because of Muslims but everyone knows that's the case. It's Sweden, after all.
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Offline cybercoma

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It's incredible how many times Sweden's **** statistics can be explained to you, but you continue to run with your bullshit alt-right narrative.