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Offline wilber

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« Reply #150 on: May 18, 2020, 08:35:22 pm »
Quote from: the_squid on May 18, 2020, 08:03:09 pm
She’s there to make vaping safe...   hahahaha

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I don't know why she is there and neither do you. But as far as vaping goes, you can either make it less harmful or try to ban it, which we know doesn't work from other drugs.
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« Reply #151 on: May 18, 2020, 08:49:35 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 08:35:22 pm
I don't know why she is there and neither do you. But as far as vaping goes, you can either make it less harmful or try to ban it, which we know doesn't work from other drugs.

Really?  If it’s legal, then it’s ok to sell products that kill people?  Your (and Ambrose’s) morals are not the same as mine...
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« Reply #152 on: May 18, 2020, 08:52:13 pm »
Quote from: the_squid on May 18, 2020, 08:49:35 pm
Really?  If it’s legal, then it’s ok to sell products that kill people?  Your (and Ambrose’s) morals are not the same as mine...

Never said that. I'm saying if you allow the sale of products that kill people, you either have to change them so they don't or make them illegal which doesn't work.
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Re: Conservative Party leadership race
« Reply #153 on: May 18, 2020, 09:23:33 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 08:35:22 pm
I don't know why she is there and neither do you. But as far as vaping goes, you can either make it less harmful or try to ban it, which we know doesn't work from other drugs.

She was hired because as a former health minister, MP, and party leader she has prime first-hand knowledge of how health regulations and legislation works and has contacts high in government, and therefore knows how to change laws/regulations and lobby in favour of a vaping company.  She took the job for the money. They didn't hire her so she can make vaping safer and more restricted.  She's there to advance the interests of the company, which is profit, which means selling more vape products, otherwise they wouldn't have hired her. I'm sure you have an idea how the tobacco industry has worked.
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« Reply #154 on: May 18, 2020, 09:30:12 pm »
Quote from: Conspiracy Graham on May 18, 2020, 09:23:33 pm
She was hired because as a former health minister, MP, and party leader she has prime first-hand knowledge of how health regulations and legislation works and has contacts high in government, and therefore knows how to change laws/regulations and lobby in favour of a vaping company.  She took the job for the money. They didn't hire her so she can make vaping safer and more restricted.  She's there to advance the interests of the company, which is profit, which means selling more vape products, otherwise they wouldn't have hired her. I'm sure you have an idea how the tobacco industry has worked.

On the other hand, maybe they know they have to change or die. How is the Tobacco industry doing in Canada these days?
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« Reply #155 on: May 18, 2020, 09:32:54 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 09:30:12 pm
On the other hand, maybe they know they have to change or die. How is the Tobacco industry doing in Canada these days?

I mean sure.  But they're only changing for profit.
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« Reply #156 on: May 18, 2020, 09:35:43 pm »
Rona quit as MP in May 2017, she made the announcement in May 2020.  What's the wait period for lobbying and taking these conflict-of-interest positions post-Parliament?
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« Reply #157 on: May 18, 2020, 09:42:30 pm »
Quote from: Conspiracy Graham on May 18, 2020, 09:32:54 pm
I mean sure.  But they're only changing for profit.

Of course they want to make a profit. What company doesn't. Killing your customers isn't good business sense.
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« Reply #158 on: May 18, 2020, 10:30:46 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 09:30:12 pm
On the other hand, maybe they know they have to change or die. How is the Tobacco industry doing in Canada these days?

Shouldn't they consult with microbiologists and/or medical experts to make a safer product?

What are Ambrose’s expertise in making this product safer?  They hired her for her insights into government, as Graham said.
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« Reply #159 on: May 18, 2020, 10:31:43 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 09:42:30 pm
Of course they want to make a profit. What company doesn't. Killing your customers isn't good business sense.

Making an addictive product is great business, even if t kills people.
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Re: Conservative Party leadership race
« Reply #160 on: May 18, 2020, 10:32:43 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 09:42:30 pm
Of course they want to make a profit. What company doesn't. Killing your customers isn't good business sense.

Therefore it seems to me Rona took the job for the money by helping this company sell more vape products, not to "make the world a better place". 
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Re: Conservative Party leadership race
« Reply #161 on: May 18, 2020, 10:57:59 pm »
Philippe J. Fournier - 338Canada => analysis on the recent days Mainstreet Poll (a polling sample described as representative of the CPC Conservative membership itself):

Peter MacKay's uncomfortable lead: Short of a massive first-ballot lead, Peter Mackay is vulnerable and, without support from social conservatives, could lose the leadership

to win, to reach the 50% threshold level, Peter MacKay may be hooped based on second choice candidate selections of those CPC members polled... allowing Erin O'Tool to ultimately claim the crown as respective candidates are iteratively removed!
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« Reply #162 on: May 18, 2020, 11:17:41 pm »
Quote from: Conspiracy Graham on May 18, 2020, 10:32:43 pm
Therefore it seems to me Rona took the job for the money by helping this company sell more vape products, not to "make the world a better place".
We can all have opinions, I don’t know why she took the job, just stating there is more than one possibility.
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Re: Conservative Party leadership race
« Reply #163 on: May 18, 2020, 11:41:21 pm »
Quote from: wilber on May 18, 2020, 09:42:30 pm
Of course they want to make a profit. What company doesn't. Killing your customers isn't good business sense.

So tobacco companies are doing bad business?
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Re: Conservative Party leadership race
« Reply #164 on: May 18, 2020, 11:45:15 pm »
Quote from: the_squid on May 18, 2020, 11:41:21 pm
So tobacco companies are doing bad business?

They are in BC. How many smokers do you know?
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