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Offline After 9 years of Trudeau Shady

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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #150 on: March 22, 2023, 11:51:17 am »
Quote from: waldo on March 22, 2023, 11:45:41 am
you're not a serious member/poster! The waldo will now proceed to ignore you as your misinformed azzholery is tooooo pronounced! You're a waste of time!
Whatever you say buddy.  I just won't allow you to distract and deflect from the real issues.  I understand why you want to turn this into an issue of Pierre Poilievre, but it's not.  He's irrelevant to the issue of Chinese election interference, and what Trudeau knew, and his inaction.  It's irrelevant to the sitting Liberal MPs that CSIS has significant concerns of.  It's about bloody time you started to put country over party.
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« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2023, 10:23:38 pm »
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #153 on: March 22, 2023, 11:44:48 pm »
Quote from: bcsapper on March 22, 2023, 11:09:42 pm
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/han-dong-resigns-from-liberal-caucus-amid-foreign-interference-allegations-1.6325137

I'm just reading up on this.  If he is colluding with the Chinese Government to work against the interests of Canadians, he should be criminally charged.
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« Reply #154 on: March 22, 2023, 11:55:56 pm »
Quote from: Coolio on March 22, 2023, 11:44:48 pm
I'm just reading up on this.  If he is colluding with the Chinese Government to work against the interests of Canadians, he should be criminally charged.

Yeah, it's all at the allegation stage at the moment, but if he is colluding with the Chinese Government to work against the interests of Canadians, for the benefit of a political party, the party and its leader should have to explain themselves too.
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #155 on: March 23, 2023, 12:06:29 am »


Looks like this man is the brains behind the outfit.

Michael Chan
Deputy Mayor of Markham
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2023, 11:14:34 am »
recent testimony given to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs (PROC):

Quote from: CSIS Director David Vigneault giving testimony to PROC
Chinese activities did not approach the threshold of interference.
Quote from: RCMP Deputy Commissioner Michael Duheme giving testimony to PROC
We did not receive any actionable intelligence that would warrant us to initiate a criminal investigation.



Quote from: bcsapper on March 22, 2023, 11:55:56 pm
...allegation stage at the moment

unnamed "source(s)"... allegedly suggested... verification, who bothers with that?... clickbait!... experts/insiders openly questioning "source(s)" association with CSIS (including a former CSIS Director)... say source(s) are politically motivated... key "journalist" admits to torquing past stories (he who lost all credibility with his baseless attacks on Maher Arar)... leaking source(s) do not meet the whistleblower definition... etc., etc., etc..

hey waldo, can you say yellowJournalism!
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« Reply #157 on: March 23, 2023, 12:59:02 pm »
if said leaker is actually CSIS, the leak of intelligence is in contravention of the Security of Information Act (SOIA). More pointedly, said leaker presumes to know more/know better than CSIS proper - and is clearly politically motivated! In reporting, media outlets are not following basis principles of journalism that call for proper context/nuance, independent confirmation/verification, alternate viewpoints, etc..
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2023, 01:09:39 pm »
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« Reply #159 on: March 23, 2023, 01:34:45 pm »
Quote from: Queefer Sutherland on March 23, 2023, 01:09:39 pm
Nope:

LOL! Is lawyer Coyne any better than journalist Coyne?
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« Reply #160 on: March 23, 2023, 02:03:01 pm »
Quote from: waldo on March 23, 2023, 01:34:45 pm
LOL! Is lawyer Coyne any better than journalist Coyne?

No worse than lawyer waldo.
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #161 on: March 23, 2023, 02:09:21 pm »
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #162 on: March 23, 2023, 04:50:39 pm »
hey now chuckleHeads - lawyerwaldo says what?

guys, guys, can you confirm said leaker provided prior disclosure to some specifically designated internal authority? Well can ya, hey? And if timely internal response didn't occur... hasn't occurred... to satisfy the concerns of said leaker, was a subsequent expedited path pursued to notify the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency? Well was it, hey chuckleHeads - well, was it?

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To be protected, prior to any disclosure, the person must, before communicating or confirming the information, bring their concern to, and provide all relevant information in their possession to, his or her deputy head or, if not reasonably practical in the circumstances, the Deputy Attorney General of Canada. Should they not receive a response within a reasonable time, the person must bring his or her concern to and provided all relevant information in their possession to the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency, if the person’s concern relates to an alleged offence that has been, is being or is about to be committed by another person in the purported performance of that person’s duties and functions of service for, or on behalf of, the Government of Canada and he or she has not received a response from that Agency within a reasonable time.
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Re: Chinese foreign interference in Canada
« Reply #163 on: March 23, 2023, 05:13:32 pm »
Quote from: waldo on March 09, 2023, 05:33:10 pm
Intelligence (leaks) are information... they are not evidence; they are not necessarily fact... they are not necessarily truth. Intelligence information is often inaccurate or partial or incomplete, or in fact designed to mislead.

hey chuckleHeads, you're welcome - carry on!
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« Reply #164 on: March 23, 2023, 05:34:25 pm »
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