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« Reply #240 on: June 25, 2021, 09:58:19 am »
As I said before mortality rates for children under 5 didn’t drop below 25% until the 1920’s and that is for the population in general. Put a bunch of aboriginal kids with limited or no immunity to European diseases in close proximity and those diseases would go through them like wildfire. Their mortality rate would be higher even if there was no abuse. What bothers me as much as anything is the lack of respect they were shown in death.

And none of these kids were under 5, so how is that figure relevant? At least try to compare apples to apples here.
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« Reply #241 on: June 25, 2021, 11:24:21 am »
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« Reply #242 on: June 25, 2021, 12:16:05 pm »
And none of these kids were under 5, so how is that figure relevant? At least try to compare apples to apples here.

According to the news, some of the Kamloops children were as young as 3. Even so, many of the childhood diseases we vaccinate for today were real child killers back then. It was also an era with no antibiotics and many of the other drugs and medical advances we take for granted. On average, Canadians live 24 years longer than they did in 1922.
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« Reply #243 on: June 25, 2021, 12:31:16 pm »
I'm not trying to justify anything that happened, just pointing out that much higher mortality rates than we are accustomed to shouldn't be a big surprise even if the kids had been well looked after.
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« Reply #244 on: June 25, 2021, 12:41:21 pm »
I'm not trying to justify anything that happened, just pointing out that much higher mortality rates than we are accustomed to shouldn't be a big surprise even if the kids had been well looked after.

Were they “well looked after”?
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« Reply #245 on: June 25, 2021, 12:56:32 pm »
Were they “well looked after”?

Seems not but then I have never said they were.
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« Reply #246 on: June 25, 2021, 01:17:50 pm »
Seems not but then I have never said they were.

Not directly….   But you seem to throw out tidbits of “information” that seems to sort of maybe kind of justifies what happened. 

Otherwise, why bring those up if you think they’re irrelevant anyway?
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« Reply #247 on: June 25, 2021, 02:01:22 pm »
Not directly….   But you seem to throw out tidbits of “information” that seems to sort of maybe kind of justifies what happened. 

Otherwise, why bring those up if you think they’re irrelevant anyway?

They aren't irrelevant, perspective is important because assuming every grave was a result of abuse is not justified. There will plenty of evidence found that will condemn the system, there is no need to make any up.
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« Reply #248 on: June 25, 2021, 02:09:05 pm »
They aren't irrelevant, perspective is important because assuming every grave was a result of abuse is not justified. There will plenty of evidence found that will condemn the system, there is no need to make any up.

Please quote where anyone said anything about these graves being the result of only abuse.  Any post, any article in this thread….  Where?
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« Reply #249 on: June 25, 2021, 03:29:39 pm »
Please quote where anyone said anything about these graves being the result of only abuse.  Any post, any article in this thread….  Where?

 I think it has certainly been implied.
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« Reply #250 on: June 25, 2021, 03:32:19 pm »
I think it has certainly been implied.

Cite where.
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« Reply #251 on: June 25, 2021, 03:44:12 pm »
Cite where.

It isn't about what has been said, it's about what hasn't been. I'm just saying it. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash and this thread won't worthy of the GRRRR/ OUTRAGE CULTURE topic.
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« Reply #252 on: June 25, 2021, 03:45:38 pm »
It isn't about what has been said, it's about what hasn't been. I'm just saying it. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash and this thread won't worthy of the GRRRR/ OUTRAGE CULTURE topic.

You don’t think it’s worthy of some outrage?

What outrage posted here do you disagree with?
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« Reply #253 on: June 25, 2021, 03:49:49 pm »
You don’t think it’s worthy of some outrage?

What outrage posted here do you disagree with?

I think the system itself is worthy of outrage, the details are yet to be determined.

I'm not talking about here in particular, just about the way it has been treated in general. None of the things I brought up have been mentioned anywhere that I know of and there a lot of people in this world who think nothing has changed in the past 100 years.
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« Reply #254 on: June 25, 2021, 05:20:59 pm »
I think the system itself is worthy of outrage, the details are yet to be determined.

I'm not talking about here in particular, just about the way it has been treated in general. None of the things I brought up have been mentioned anywhere that I know of and there a lot of people in this world who think nothing has changed in the past 100 years.

You think this school was abandoned 100 years ago and just forgotten? 

It operated until 1996. You don’t think someone maybe knew something?  That maybe there were records?
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