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Offline waldo

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« Reply #285 on: October 03, 2021, 12:48:39 pm »
Certification could lead to a single major settlement, including Canadian Human Rights Tribunal compensation

How many more years will that take another 5, 10, 15?

the waldo busting your narrative was soooo sweet! That you're left to resort to nothing more than cheer-leading for failure... that's gold... that's gravy!

'seducing the canine, indeed!'

Yup, that's what I said.

revel in your alternate reality - you wear it well! Meanwhile, in the real world, as evidenced by the government's certification of those class-action lawsuits, appropriate compensation will be the end result:

Quote from: Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller & Justice Minister David Lametti
Consenting to certification marks a step forward in negotiating a settlement to compensate those harmed by under-funding of child and family services on reserve
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« Reply #286 on: October 03, 2021, 07:25:20 pm »
I know someone who worked in Nunavut for decades, they were friends with many Inuit there.  My friend said they didn't allow alcohol in many communities there for a long time.  Then they legalized it, and the locals couldn't handle it and many went a bit off the wall, so my friend moved back here because they didn't want to raise a family in that environment.  That's really sad.
I can tell how good of a person you are by how you treat the people you disagree with.

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« Reply #287 on: October 06, 2021, 06:19:15 pm »

Offline eyeball

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« Reply #288 on: October 29, 2021, 07:35:25 pm »
The little POS could easily sidestep all the dog **** by simply writing a cheque for the perennially uncompensated 1st nations. The son of the man who said 'just watch me' could do this with the stroke of a pen.

Am I supposed to believe the government will take him to court or something?
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« Reply #289 on: October 30, 2021, 12:43:04 pm »
waldo factoids:
- in regards indigenous children taken from homes and communities under the on-reserve child welfare system from Jan. 1, 2006, to a date to be determined by the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT). (the waldo emphasizes the reference point includes the complete Harper Conservative governance period).
- judicial challenge was not in regards compensation or compensation amounts; rather, the challenge principally centered on jurisdictional standing of the CHRT - maintaining that a full judicial review is required to validate said standing (among several other matters).
- at the time of the initiation of the court challenge, then leader of the CPC (Andrew Scheer) agreed that a judicial review was necessary.
- on a practical level, the challenge was concerned with the mechanics of determining compensation eligibility and how payments would be made. Additionally, the challenge questioned the CHRT acting as the conduit for compensation payments and questioned the mandate of the CHRT to establish new categories of persons/groups eligible for compensation.
- even if one accepts... outright accepts the CHRT findings, one finding is to determine the best independent process to distribute the compensation and decide who qualifies - something that hasn't occurred; something that requires negotiation between the government and an assortment of indigenous stakeholders.

This was a Federal Court... one single judge... ruling. Will it be appealed to the Federal Court of Appeal? I would expect so given the overreach and lack of standing of the Canadian Human Rights tribunal. The last thing needed is a precedent that improperly positions the CHRT to make future like rulings rather than litigants pursuing proper class-action type initiatives through the courts.

why yes waldo... an appeal has been launched but put on hold pending negotiations outside of court proceedings: Ottawa will appeal court ruling on Indigenous child welfare but says it's pursuing a compensation deal

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"Canada acknowledges the finding of systemic discrimination and does not oppose the general principle that compensation to First Nations individuals who experienced pain and suffering as a result of government misconduct should be provided," the notice of appeal reads.

"Awarding compensation to individuals in the manner ordered by the Tribunal, however, was inconsistent with the nature of the complaint, the evidence, past jurisprudence and the Canadian Human Rights Act."

per Marc Miller - Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations:
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« Reply #290 on: October 30, 2021, 02:52:12 pm »
Blah blah  blah....fify
Your references and whataboutism is just you screwing the same pooch from a different direction.
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« Reply #291 on: October 30, 2021, 04:32:51 pm »
Your references and whataboutism is just you screwing the same pooch from a different direction.

meanwhile... the First Nations Child and Family Caring Society & the Assembly of First Nations, per their key spokesperson, agreed to, per her words, "press pause" and work toward a negotiated settlement; one, outside and separate from, the prior CHRTribunal findings/directives. Geezaz waldo, those First Nations representatives are undercutting the shtick of drive-by, sniping, wannabe Shaman member eyeball!

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« Reply #292 on: October 30, 2021, 06:14:48 pm »
meanwhile... the First Nations Child and Family Caring Society & the Assembly of First Nations, per their key spokesperson, agreed to, per her words, "press pause" and work toward a negotiated settlement; one, outside and separate from, the prior CHRTribunal findings/directives. Geezaz waldo, those First Nations representatives are undercutting the shtick of drive-by, sniping, wannabe Shaman member eyeball!
Sure. Meanwhile $10 says the reps you put forth as examples catch a lot of sniping from their own people.

In any case,You seem to be oblivious to how often I reference Ottawa. 1st Nations don't negotiate or sign treaties with political parties.  That said repeat serial canine seducers like Justin Trudeau deserve a good drive-by. You can pleade 'yeah but but but... whatabout everyone else blah blah blah' all you want. Meanwhile you know how it goes, its the party in power that assumes Ottawa's dog face and has at it - you buy it you own it.

In a discussion I had about being self- governing with indigenous friends I've known for decades it was said we really need to get better control over our own self- governance.   
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Offline The Cynic

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Re: Canadian-Aboriginal Culture
« Reply #293 on: November 07, 2021, 09:40:12 am »


Our precious, virtue signaling government, always desperately seeking a new way to show Canada's 'shame'.
God forbid they should ever show anything like pride in this country and its accomplishments.
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