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Offline wilber

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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2020, 04:59:24 pm »
Well would you rather take the donald trump approach to such issues? Sounds like it. Head in the sand as I said.
I guess if owning an assault rifle gives you a hard on you should go sign up for the military.

Donít be ridiculous  our laws are much different from the US. I donít own or have any desire to own a gun but just because I donít is no justification to have someone elseís form of recreation banned.
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2020, 05:02:26 pm »
Time for bed said Zebedee...

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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2020, 05:04:43 pm »
No doubt some are both but I'm also quite sure you can be one without being the other. I'm thinking there will be a new class of anti-racist gun-nut armed against racist gun-nuts and I suppose there must be other sub-divisions of gun-nuts out there.  What about anti-government gun-nuts and gun-nuts that work for governments?  How do they manage to get along without blasting away at each other?

I agree. I grew up in the woods, owned a gun, and used to hunt every now and then. Moved to the city and was happy to drop that Winchester off at the OPP station. If I wanted venison in downtown TO I could find it at a restaurant.

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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2020, 05:06:54 pm »
Donít be ridiculous  our laws are much different from the US. I donít own or have any desire to own a gun but just because I donít is no justification to have someone elseís form of recreation banned.

Except no oneís form of recreation is being banned.  They can switch to recreating with a legal gun.  Problem solved.

The automatic weapons ban prevents someoneís preferred competition, Iím sure...   so why wouldnít we allow automatic weapons?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine_gun_competition

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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2020, 05:17:26 pm »
Donít people know that thereís already a law against using a police officerís gun to kill people.  Regardless we shouldnít be making law based on the looks of guns.  But, as usual, this law is all about symbolism over substance.  The PM needs to look like heís doing something.  And the PM needs to distract from his coronavirus response and the massive Trudeau new debt and recession.
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2020, 05:23:42 pm »
Donít people know that thereís already a law against using a police officerís gun to kill people.  Regardless we shouldnít be making law based on the looks of guns.  But, as usual, this law is all about symbolism over substance.  The PM needs to look like heís doing something.  And the PM needs to distract from his coronavirus response and the massive Trudeau new debt and recession.

It's not "the looks of guns" that's important. If you had to reload the gun after each shot then a lot of people would still be alive. Probably wouldn't have a great impact on the number of deer shot for food.

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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2020, 05:25:38 pm »
Donít people know that thereís already a law against using a police officerís gun to kill people. 

You think most shootings happen by taking a copís gun and using it?  Wow...  thatís brilliant.  Cuz the Libs just banned ďtaking an officerís gunĒ...   ::)

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Regardless we shouldnít be making law based on the looks of guns.  But, as usual, this law is all about symbolism over substance.  The PM needs to look like heís doing something.  And the PM needs to distract from his coronavirus response and the massive Trudeau new debt and recession.

Youíre right.  There needs to be much more substance to these things.  Bans that go way beyond how a gun looks.  Your CoronaVrirus stuff is just idiotic.  I donít think anything is distracting anyone from the pandemic. 

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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2020, 05:26:46 pm »
It's not "the looks of guns" that's important. If you had to reload the gun after each shot then a lot of people would still be alive. Probably wouldn't have a great impact on the number of deer shot for food.

Get it?

Thatís not what this ban is at all.  It is mostly about the looks of the gun.  Also a bit about the ease of use, I suppose, but not really.

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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2020, 05:31:52 pm »
Except no oneís form of recreation is being banned.  They can switch to recreating with a legal gun.  Problem solved.

The automatic weapons ban prevents someoneís preferred competition, Iím sure...   so why wouldnít we allow automatic weapons?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine_gun_competition
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So letís get rid of cars that can do more than 100 kph and can reach it in less than ten seconds. No one needs them except first responders and they kill a lot more people than firearms in this country.

Full auto weapons have never been legal in Canada and have been illegal in the US since 1986.
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2020, 05:33:15 pm »
It's not "the looks of guns" that's important. If you had to reload the gun after each shot then a lot of people would still be alive. Probably wouldn't have a great impact on the number of deer shot for food.

Get it?
No.  When the style of a weapon is used as a reason to ban it, youíre talking about looks.  Style is not function.  The PM needs to stop the referencing of ďassault-styleĒ weapons.  Itís a meaningless term made up by people who donít know which end of a gun to point with.
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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2020, 05:36:12 pm »
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So letís get rid of cars that can do more than 100 kph and can reach it in less than ten seconds. No one needs them except first responders and they kill a lot more people than firearms in this country.

Full auto weapons have never been legal in Canada and have been illegal in the US since 1986.
Good point.  Look at all the lives that could be saved.  More lives in a year than any mass shootings.  Why arenít cigarettes and cigars banned too?  They cause tens of thousands of deaths each year.  Maybe more.  And nobody needs cigarettes or cigars.
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« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2020, 05:40:27 pm »
No.  When the style of a weapon is used as a reason to ban it, youíre talking about looks.  Style is not function.  The PM needs to stop the referencing of ďassault-styleĒ weapons.  Itís a meaningless term made up by people who donít know which end of a gun to point with.

"Assault style weapons" were designed to be used in a war zone were you needed to kill a lot of people who had the same guns who were trying to kill you. Why the fuck do you think we need them in Toronto for example?

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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2020, 05:43:06 pm »
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So letís get rid of cars that can do more than 100 kph and can reach it in less than ten seconds. No one needs them except first responders and they kill a lot more people than firearms in this country.

Full auto weapons have never been legal in Canada and have been illegal in the US since 1986.

Sorry Wilber...  you wonít distract me by comparing guns to cars.  Itís a bad argument and also dishonest.  A carís purpose isnít to kill things, while a gunís is.  Lowering death by both these things is a good thing.  Iím not against doing things to lower car deaths.  The biggest thing that would help is to train drivers better.

But I am also not for banning all guns.  You just created ANOTHER straw-man out of my argument.  As long as you keep arguing against something I never said, I am going to keep reminding you not to and dismissing your arguments out of hand because that debate tactic is dishonest.

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« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2020, 05:46:29 pm »
While we are at it, letís get rid of recreation boats that can go faster than 50 kph, thatís plenty fast enough for skiing, tubing or wakeboarding. Get rid of all PWCís because they are just irritating as hell.
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« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2020, 05:49:05 pm »
Sorry Wilber...  you wonít distract me by comparing guns to cars.  Itís a bad argument and also dishonest.  A carís purpose isnít to kill things, while a gunís is.  Lowering death by both these things is a good thing.  Iím not against doing things to lower car deaths.  The biggest thing that would help is to train drivers better.

But I am also not for banning all guns.  You just created ANOTHER straw-man out of my argument.  As long as you keep arguing against something I never said, I am going to keep reminding you not to and dismissing your arguments out of hand because that debate tactic is dishonest.

Not all cars, just the ones we donít need and produce a much higher body count than firearms.
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