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Guns used in crimes in Canada are always illegal guns.

citation request!

Try asking local police departments.  Guns used in crimes are either stolen or obtained ILLEGALLY.

c'mon Shady! What the hey kind of citation is that?

It's not rocket science... .  And guess what dumb arse?  Smuggling weapons is already against the law.  Imagine that, oh my!

c'mon man! Still waiting for you to provide a cite/reference to support your original claim where you stated, "Guns used in crimes in Canada are always illegal guns."

stop deflecting and provide your source - yes?

Saskatchewan joins Alberta in refusing Trudeau’s gun grab of law abiding citizens.

...Trudeau’s gun grab of law abiding citizens.

Shady, are there any controls over the ownership of #AssaultWeapons you accept? In regards your referenced 'law abiding citizens', are there any uses of #AssaultWeapons that you have concerns for?

Shady, are there any controls over the ownership of #AssaultWeapons you accept? In regards your referenced 'law abiding citizens', are there any uses of #AssaultWeapons that you have concerns for?

The PM needs to stop the referencing of “assault-style” weapons.  It’s a meaningless term made up by people who don’t know which end of a gun to point with.

Assault weapons is a made up term with no meaning.

 
ShadySemanticRunaway, ShadySemanticRunaway, ShadySemanticRunaway... member Shady, putting the antics back into semantics! LOL!

c'mon Shady, as there have been a couple of detailed lists of the prohibited firearms presented in this thread, you have no excuse in not recognizing the prohibited firearms in question! The waldo is partial to the following as it also includes the first-cut draft buy-back pricing:
 

 
ShadySemanticRunaway, ShadySemanticRunaway, ShadySemanticRunaway... member Shady, putting the antics back into semantics! LOL!

c'mon Shady, as there have been a couple of detailed lists of the prohibited firearms presented in this thread, you have no excuse in not recognizing the prohibited firearms in question! The waldo is partial to the following as it also includes the first-cut draft buy-back pricing:

What does assault “style” mean?  Do you mean the look?  The look of a gun is irrelevant.  Completely and utterly irrelevant.  Like I’ve already said, automatic weapons are already banned.  Semi- automatic weapons are simply one trigger pull, one round discharged.  Regardless, guns that are used in crimes in Canada are almost always obtained illegally.  Confiscating guns from law abiding citizens does not solve any problems.  It’s just feel good window dressing for public relations reasons.

#AssaultWeapons

As Shady (and Tyler Shandro) pointed out, the phrase "assault weapons" is just a propaganda phrase.  Nothing legally available to Canadian consumers in 2019 qualifies as an assault weapon by any military standard of what might be used on a battlefield.

For example: after the ban came into effect, I bought a nice used Remington 742 Woodmaster rifle, which is almost identical to my Norinco "assault rifle" in almost every respect, except that one is a non-restricted "hunting rifle", and the other is now a prohibited "assault rifle." 

Functionally they're almost identical except that the magazine in the 742 only holds 4 cartridges while the Norinco holds 5.  (I promise: if I can't kill it with 4 shots from the 742, a 5th shot won't matter.)

The ammo?  They fire the same round. I only bought it because I have a crate of 7.62 NATO surplus ammo, and wanted a rifle that could fire the same cartridge. 7.62 NATO? It's the most widely used hunting rounds-- the scary-sounding "7.62 NATO" is the exact same bullet as the .308 Winchester that is used by probably 25% of hunters in Canada.  A shot from the 742 is every bit as deadly as the Norinco, and it can shoot just as fast.

So why is one prohibited and the other non-restricted?

Only because this


looks less aggressive than this

(that's actually a US model with a 10 round magazine. Mine with the itty bitty 5 round magazine looks even more tame.)

Ultimately the term "assault weapon" and the list of newly prohibited firearms, is all about aesthetics and has nothing to do with the actual capability of these firearms.

 -k

Alberta party politics is at the heart of a "bold move" by the Alberta UCP Justice Minister, Tyler Shandro... who presumes to "do one better" than the projected winner of the UCP leadership race (and the expected resultant next Alberta Premier), Danielle Smith. A prominent policy intent of Smith is to introduce the so-called 'Sovereignty Act' that is said to affirm the authority of the Alberta legislature to refuse provincial enforcement of specific federal laws or policies “that violate the jurisdictional rights of Alberta” under the Constitution of Canada or Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Aside from the fact many 'constitutional experts' are proclaiming the presumptive 'Sovereignty Act' is wholly unconstitutional, it's associated anti-federal/anti-Trudeau posturing has, of course, been widely received by the usual suspects in Alberta! 

None of this is contingent upon the "Sovereignty Act" at all. 

I believe that some years back the NDP government of BC directed BC RCMP to cease enforcing minor drug possession offenses.  How is this any different?


Perhaps Tyler Shandro has access to information that has not yet been made public regarding how the "gun buyback" will be implemented.  Last I heard they were still doing white-papers and had no idea what the **** was going on. If Shandro has received a request for police resources, that could indicate they have come up with some portion of a plan (or 12% of a plan, or perhaps a concept, or even a notion.)

The idea I had seen spitballed was that I would go to a website, indicate that I have a Newly Prohibited Firearm (NPF) and get some sort of approval to send it to the feds in return for compensation. I would get some sort of ticket number, which I could use to go to a Canada Post outlet and obtain packaging materials, then take my NPF to Canada Post and return it via registered mail, and receive monetary compensation when my NPF has been received by the authorities.

If that's the model they end up going with, I don't see why the RCMP's participation is necessary for anybody voluntarily cooperating with the "buy back".

The RCMP does need to be involved if it comes down to knocking on the doors of legal gun owners and demanding access to their gun cabinets. And, obviously, that's a colossal waste of police resources. Here in Kim City, the crime capital of Canada, there are a lot of things the RCMP ought to be doing ahead of raiding the homes of legal gun owners.  Nonetheless, since I'm in BC and not in Alberta, I'm prepared for the full RCMP Experience^tm, including a Wellness Check^tm from couple of roid-raging uniformed mooks screaming "WHERE ARE THE GUNS? WHERE ARE THE GUNS?" while I lie on the floor with a knee in my back.

Reminder: if the buyer sets the price, and the seller doesn't have the option of declining to sell, then it's not a sale. It's confiscation with nominal compensation.

Reminder: I've been not allowed to use my **** for 2.5 years and still haven't received any compensation. IT'S BEEN 2 AND A HALF YEARS JUSTIN YOU FUCKEN DEADBEAT I'M GETTIN' REAL TIRED OF  YOU DUCKIN' ME YOU BEST HAVE MY GODDAMN MONEY NEXT TIME I SEE YOU JUSTIN YOU FUCKEN PUNK.

 -k

None of this is contingent upon the "Sovereignty Act" at all.

the waldo made no such claim! Justice Minister Shandro has repeatedly stated his 'bold move' is not at all like Smith's proposed "Sovereignty Act"; however, there are wags who are suggesting that Shandro is like posturing to present that the existing UCP can be just as unconstitutional as the expected new UCP leader Smith!