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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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Canada gunz
« on: May 06, 2020, 12:12:25 pm »
Last thread was nuked. Talk about Canada guns n' legislation.

I don't disagree with the assault weapon ban, but I also don't think the government should be allowed to ban the ownership of private property of any kind without democratic legislation.
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2020, 12:17:00 pm »
Last thread was nuked. Talk about Canada guns n' legislation.

I don't disagree with the assault weapon ban, but I also don't think the government should be allowed to ban the ownership of private property of any kind without democratic legislation.
Good point.  But what is the government’s definition of an assault weapon?  And what is the difference between the terms they use, assault weapon vs assault-style weapon?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2020, 12:34:41 pm »
I don't disagree with the assault weapon ban, but I also don't think the government should be allowed to ban the ownership of private property of any kind without democratic legislation.

surely you're not saying there's no supporting legislation - surely not, yes?

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2020, 12:36:54 pm »
Last thread was nuked. Talk about Canada guns n' legislation.

I don't disagree with the assault weapon ban, but I also don't think the government should be allowed to ban the ownership of private property of any kind without democratic legislation.

They are using regulations that are empowered by legislation that already exists.  Legislation that went through the democratic process.   

How do you think this actually works?  That the PM barks an order and the cops say “Heil Trudeau”???    Now it may be that the action is challenged in court and is overturned for whatever reason, but your understanding of this seems to be based on some really naive understanding of how government works coming from some crappy sloganeering.

It reminds me of the “guns don’t kill people...” stupidity.  Evidence based on a slogan is junk.
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 04:39:32 pm »
surely you're not saying there's no supporting legislation - surely not, yes?

Legislation that says a government can ban private property without a democratic vote isn't very good legislation.
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 04:45:30 pm »
Now it may be that the action is challenged in court and is overturned for whatever reason, but your understanding of this seems to be based on some really naive understanding of how government works coming from some crappy sloganeering.

It reminds me of the “guns don’t kill people...” stupidity.  Evidence based on a slogan is junk.

Your assumptions are wrong yet again as per usual.
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 05:07:57 pm »
Legislation that says a government can ban private property without a democratic vote isn't very good legislation.

It's not quite so "private" property when you use it to kill 22 people. Did they have to pry that private property from the murderers "cold, dead  hands"?
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2020, 06:30:58 pm »
Legislation that says a government can ban private property without a democratic vote isn't very good legislation.

You disagreeing with the legislation has no bearing on whether the legislation actually exists to do what they did.

Your assumptions are wrong yet again as per usual.

So your contention is that the government cannot regulate guns with existing legislation?  Based on what?  Be specific.
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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2020, 01:44:56 am »
Good point.  But what is the government’s definition of an assault weapon?
I would have suggested a bolt-action rifle with no more capacity than a single round and outlawed everything else. But a little birdy over at MLW tells me rednecks will soon be gunning for my grandkids because they're Chinese so...I should probably be looking for something quite a bit deadlier.

Doesn't take much to turn a guy into a hard-boiled gun nut these days I guess.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2020, 09:32:27 am »
I would have suggested a bolt-action rifle with no more capacity than a single round and outlawed everything else. But a little birdy over at MLW tells me rednecks will soon be gunning for my grandkids because they're Chinese so...I should probably be looking for something quite a bit deadlier.

Doesn't take much to turn a guy into a hard-boiled gun nut these days I guess.

So the gun nutz are not only red necks but they're also racist? Yeah, makes sense. And we know one place to find 'em.

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2020, 09:39:12 am »
So the gun nutz are not only red necks but they're also racist? Yeah, makes sense. And we know one place to find 'em.

And they also want to protect their grandchildren, apparently.  Well, it seems reasonable to me.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2020, 10:47:26 am »
And they also want to protect their grandchildren, apparently.  Well, it seems reasonable to me.

Yes I guess you need some guns to protect your grandchildren from other people with guns. Seems reasonable to me....oh wait, this is not MLW. disregard.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2020, 11:25:32 am »
I would have suggested a bolt-action rifle with no more capacity than a single round and outlawed everything else.

Then you would have to buy back about 90% of the guns in the country.
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2020, 11:50:31 am »
Then you would have to buy back about 90% of the guns in the country.

Fair enough. You wanna go hunt birds, get a 12 guage. Beasts, get a lever action .303. Nobody needs that 30 round AR-15 with a bump stock.

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Re: Canada gunz
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2020, 11:58:56 am »
Fair enough. You wanna go hunt birds, get a 12 guage. Beasts, get a lever action .303. Nobody needs that 30 round AR-15 with a bump stock.

When were 30 round AR-15's and bump stocks ever legal or even sold in Canada? It will be just as easy to get them from the US as it ever was.
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