Well granny prefers the 230% option, which is insane and will never happen anyways except for in socialist pipe dreams.
Instead jacking taxes astronomically and giving tons of free money to everyone including those who don't need it, it might make sense to, oh uhm i dunno, help people become financially independent of mommy government and her delicious money nipple.
Anyways, let's talk about how we can actually help people who need help. Some people, like the disabled, actually do need the money nipple.
I hoped we could have a discussion about this without derogatory a
comments toward people in need of assistance.
It displays a real lack of knowledge about people who are temporarily or permanently in need of assistance, and how difficult, demeaning and harsh their lives of poverty are.
If you resent people in need so much, I suggest you try living their lives for a while.
Maybe that's one of the benefits of providing a basic income to everyone ... so you are reminded how little is provided to the people who have the most challenges in life.
"mommy government and her delicious money nipple" provides lower than poverty level (ie, not enough to house and feed) support to disabled and currently unemployable people.
I'm not sure just who you are imagining is enjoying "the delicious money nipple", but I don't think you're very well-informed about people in need. Your comments suggest that you suspect there are people as well equipped for life as yourself who just choose instead to live in "delicious" poverty. I suggest you try living on ramen noodles for 2 weeks a month, and see whether you even have the energy to do your job!
Lots of people can lose everything and fall on hard times due to recession, illness, accident (eg, brain injury, etc.), addiction, loss/grieving, caring for an ailing spouse (ie, two incomes lost), or a daughter dies and suddenly min-wage Grandma has 2 preschoolers to raise ... etc etc etc. There are THOUSANDS of temporary circumstances that fall upon people who are already living on the edge of poverty, and can sink them permanently if there's only welfare support, because it is only enough to keep them in deep poverty, never enough to help them climb out again!
The most common users of welfare (80%) are single parents with pre-school children, who, on average, receive support for 3 years, until children are in school, and the parent can work without incurring excessive child care costs that quickly chew up a minimum wage pay cheque.
There aren't many able-bodied, able-minded men with employable skills who choose the misery of chronic poverty instead, because they're 'too lazy' to work. If that's who you are imagining enjoying a pleasant life of leisure from "the delicious money nipple", you are not well-informed.
The population of people receiving income support is not static. People often require assistance only temporarily, and maybe only once in their lifetime.