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Re: BACK TO WORK!! Itís just killing old farts
« Reply #285 on: May 24, 2020, 06:52:04 pm »
most pointedly, you blindly accepted that 30% figure while claiming there was significant latitude to extend upon it... to the implied point that you'd be back on your favourite bar stool in no time.

And indeed I was! Thursday and Friday I was able to return to some of my favorite places and even take the missus out for dinner! It was a delight

you can't hide your initial statements that clearly showed you had less concern for COVID-19 infected persons... even those that died... than for your most selfish and uncaring need/want to get back in the bar-stool saddle!  ;D

as for the mightly Squirrel, the waldo is having second thoughts that you'd even be able to master it!

In a country where even a snowboard instructor can be Prime Minister, I'm proud of my work history!

PM Trudeau continuing to live rent free in member kimmy's head - perfect! You're a poser; one often showcasing the Dunning-Kruger effect... but hey, you try hard!  ;D

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« Reply #286 on: May 24, 2020, 08:17:02 pm »
So leaving the boat launch closed would accomplish absolutely nothing. Oh, the beach is crowded, let's close the boat launch down the street so all the would be boaters have to use this beach instead of going out in their boats.

It wasn't down the street.

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« Reply #287 on: May 24, 2020, 08:18:36 pm »
Open the boat launch and docks, close the pool and restaurant/bar.

Or, in areas of relatively high infection rate, leave them all closed. In Manitoba, we have 17 active cases now. We can start to open things carefully. Ontario and so many other places really shouldn't be at this point.
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« Reply #288 on: May 24, 2020, 08:36:30 pm »
It wasn't down the street.
So, what does it have to do with boating. Anyway, they are opening in BC. Provincial parks now, Hydro boat launches June 1.
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« Reply #289 on: May 24, 2020, 08:50:48 pm »
So, what does it have to do with boating. Anyway, they are opening in BC. Provincial parks now, Hydro boat launches June 1.

Yes - because BC, like Manitoba and Atlantic Canada, has a very low case load, with declining active cases. 

Missouri on the other hand has reported at 11,752 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 676 deaths.

These things are not the same, and should not be treated the same.
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Re: BACK TO WORK!! Itís just killing old farts
« Reply #290 on: May 24, 2020, 10:15:37 pm »
Or, in areas of relatively high infection rate, leave them all closed. In Manitoba, we have 17 active cases now. We can start to open things carefully. Ontario and so many other places really shouldn't be at this point.

As long as you're social distancing I don't see how a boat launch or a dock or boating itself would do any harm.  Maybe if you had a boat that was packed, but you can pack a car just as easy.
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Re: BACK TO WORK!! Itís just killing old farts
« Reply #291 on: May 24, 2020, 11:52:26 pm »
Open the boat launch and docks, close the pool and restaurant/bar.

its called a destination point: Backwater Jacks Bar & Grill, Osage Beach - Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri... if you close the destination, they will not come! (notice the docks ConspiracyG - didja?)


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« Reply #292 on: May 25, 2020, 12:20:23 am »
there was no, as you say, waldo counter attempt, there was no waldo blunder, there was no waldo pout. What I most certainly did... and have subsequently done repeatedly, is to highlight and emphasize you haven't a clue as to how that claimed 30% interaction figure was arrived at. And you still don't!

I'm completely comfortable with their claim of a 30% figure. You yourself provided the chart demonstrating 50% less mobility; 50% mobility combined with significantly reduced interactions per trip makes the 30% figure entirely unsurprising.  As I said, I don't need to see their work; I trust our experts.  You used to say trust our experts, until they started saying stuff that disagreed with your preferred narrative, and now you're the new Fox Mulder. "Trust no one! The truth is out there!"

mine was the most innocuous comment - a simple statement that asked (as quoted above) just how has the B.C. Health Authority used the Google COVID-19 Mobility Reports to arrive at the stated 30% level of interaction figure?

Why do you find it so difficult to believe? Given the 50% mobility figure combined with the social distancing measures in place, elimination of large gatherings, plexiglass shields at every cash register, and so on... why is the 30% estimate they've provided so difficult for you to believe?   And what qualifications, sources of data, and other insights do you possess that make your approval of their methodology meaningful to anybody?

And that simple question caused yet another mega member kimmy wigOut including a failed attempt to claim I was trying to counter the figure... that I supposedly blundered in doing so... and that I went into a "pout" over your pompous claims!

Reminder, the claims are not mine, they're from Dr Henry and her excellent staff.   So you're not trying to counter their figures? Then what is your issue exactly? 

None of which is accurate. Per your norm, you turned tail and NOW... NOW... dredge up post exchanges that aren't even topical now! ;D You really should know when to go silent!

I have a busy life. I can't be here to tend to your issues full time. I can imagine that with so little to occupy your time you must be eager for my replies, but you will need to be patient. I will get to you when I get to you.


and per your norm you eventually resorted to making shyte up. Clearly you feel most comfortable as a shroom; again, you blindly accepted a figure that your claimed experts never provided information/data in how it was determined.

and now another member kimmy tell: your statement about the waldo only trusting China's experts shows you're clearly flailing and flummoxed!

The waldo had been happily parroting everything that came down the pike, from China, from the WHO, from Dr Tam, from JT And The Sunshine Gang... You were the Head Sheep among the Sheeple!  But now that Dr Henry and others have endorsed reopening, the waldo is now Mr Skeptic.

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Re: BACK TO WORK!! Itís just killing old farts
« Reply #293 on: May 25, 2020, 12:33:44 am »
you can't hide your initial statements that clearly showed you had less concern for COVID-19 infected persons... even those that died...

You continue to demonstrate that your reading comprehension skills are as abysmal as your writing skills.

than for your most selfish and uncaring need/want to get back in the bar-stool saddle!  ;D

I refuse to apologize for being happy.  I refused to apologize for getting on with my life.  Sitting at home and sulking isn't going to bring anybody back from the dead.

PM Trudeau continuing to live rent free in member kimmy's head - perfect! 

I find the cognitive dissonance delightful.

the waldo: "Your ideas aren't valuable because you used to be a waitress!"

also the waldo: "the former snowboard instructor is bigly qualified to be Prime Minister!"

You continually mock my background, yet your champion, your hero, your idol, is... the snowboard guy. That's **** hilarious. You're hilarious.

You're a poser; one often showcasing the Dunning-Kruger effect... but hey, you try hard!  ;D

You're so triggered by me because I'm one of the few here who won't indulge your delusions of grandeur.

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« Reply #294 on: May 25, 2020, 12:56:46 am »
So the police, the city and the health officials who are commenting about these particular parks are all in on a grand conspiracy to make it LOOK like people are gathered too close.

You've turned into conspiratards because it doesn't match your preferred narrative!   ::)

Okay, let's look at some screenshots from the video you linked.

A misleading angle...


A misleading angle...


 ...a moment later when the couple in the foreground has left, you can see that everybody is 2m apart.


Another misleading angle...


Another misleading angle...


Another misleading angle...


Get what I'm saying?

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Re: BACK TO WORK!! Itís just killing old farts
« Reply #295 on: May 25, 2020, 01:13:45 am »
I'm completely comfortable with their claim of a 30% figure. You yourself provided the chart demonstrating 50% less mobility; 50% mobility combined with significantly reduced interactions per trip makes the 30% figure entirely unsurprising.  As I said, I don't need to see their work; I trust our experts.  You used to say trust our experts, until they started saying stuff that disagreed with your preferred narrative, and now you're the new Fox Mulder. "Trust no one! The truth is out there!"

Why do you find it so difficult to believe? Given the 50% mobility figure combined with the social distancing measures in place, elimination of large gatherings, plexiglass shields at every cash register, and so on... why is the 30% estimate they've provided so difficult for you to believe?   And what qualifications, sources of data, and other insights do you possess that make your approval of their methodology meaningful to anybody?

continued member kimmy bullshyte! To suit your narrative, my questioning is my "not believing"! Sad! What you so struggle with and can't account for is the lack of transparency by your claimed experts - the ones you blindly accept. It's just so unfortunate that you're nothing more than a simple accepting parrot with absolutely no inquisitive nature - at all! Again, my most innocuous statement/question triggered you to the point of absolute hilarity! Point in fact is how Google has received significant criticism in its methodology used to generate the mobility reports. So, of course, to you asking how your claimed experts used those reports to help arrive at their stated interaction figure - that's verboten as they're YOUR experts dammit... and they're expert!  ;D

Reminder, the claims are not mine, they're from Dr Henry and her excellent staff.   So you're not trying to counter their figures? Then what is your issue exactly?

again, questioning is not, 'not believing' - it's not, as you've repeatedly claimed, attempting to counter! Again, it's just a simple question, as quoted now several times, asking how the interaction figure was arrived at. It's quite telling that you're so accepting of the absence of full transparency by... your claimed experts - so telling!

I have a busy life. I can't be here to tend to your issues full time. I can imagine that with so little to occupy your time you must be eager for my replies, but you will need to be patient. I will get to you when I get to you.

now your wigginOut is "my issues" - nice! The waldo point was that you perpetually dredge up relatively distant, no longer topical posts. To the point you actually believe your dated replies are eagerly awaited! They're not; they're simply nuisance posts; but the waldo is always ready to keep putting you in your place!  ;D

The waldo had been happily parroting everything that came down the pike, from China, from the WHO, from Dr Tam, from JT And The Sunshine Gang... You were the Head Sheep among the Sheeple!  But now that Dr Henry and others have endorsed reopening, the waldo is now Mr Skeptic.

your timeline narrative needs work! You originally brought this issue forward on April 18th... and the waldo replied to you, initially, on April 19th. Jeezaz member kimmy, that's about a full month before B.C.'s initial phase opening! The waldo is always willing to let the facts get in the way of your self-serving false narratives! You're welcome.

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« Reply #296 on: May 25, 2020, 01:17:32 am »
Okay, let's look at some screenshots from the video you linked.

surely if you can take the time/effort to being the screenshots... you can size them properly - yes?  ;D

but hey now, to you, it's all trick photography. To you, none of those big-time social distancing failures are legitimate images - cause you've brought an example! Such critically astute analysis there member kimmy!

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« Reply #297 on: May 25, 2020, 02:15:11 am »
Okay, let's look at some screenshots from the video you linked.


Get what I'm saying?

 -k

So what you're saying is that the mayor, health officials, and the RCMP are accusing people of this in these parks, but they were all wrong...  they all were just looking at some misleading photos. 

Ok Conspira-Kimmy....   ::)

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« Reply #298 on: May 25, 2020, 02:19:19 am »
You continue to demonstrate that your reading comprehension skills are as abysmal as your writing skills.

I refuse to apologize for being happy.  I refused to apologize for getting on with my life.  Sitting at home and sulking isn't going to bring anybody back from the dead.

you've had your words quoted back to you several times now. There were multiple members who took you to task for being the selfish, uncaring, bar-hopper you are! Your words!

I find the cognitive dissonance delightful.

the waldo: "Your ideas aren't valuable because you used to be a waitress!"

also the waldo: "the former snowboard instructor is bigly qualified to be Prime Minister!"

You continually mock my background, yet your champion, your hero, your idol, is... the snowboard guy. That's **** hilarious. You're hilarious.

cognitive dissonance is a part of your brand! I started raggin on you about the Squirrel POS software partly cause it clearly bothers you... and partly because you think your current cubicle world job working for some niche playing kimCity company gives you the latitude to justify your pomposity believing you have some kind of actual corporate career. In any case, workin' for tips and plying the Squirrel doesn't quite give you legitimate real-world corporate standing, now does it... not that there's anything wrong with it - service people are the economy's backbone!

and yes, that you feel the incessant need to keep mentioning PM Trudeau is gold - real gold! That you dismiss him as the "snowboard guy" says more about you than anything. Like I said, PM Trudeau lives rent free in your head!

You're so triggered by me because I'm one of the few here who won't indulge your delusions of grandeur.

delusions of grandeur? You mean like your nattering writings about your sad little workplace - where you actually have belittling names for your co-workers? Like those zany attempts of yours to story-tell... where you actually posture as a writer? Talk about your delusions of grandeur. Just accept you can't get enough waldo - more waldo says member kimmy, more please!

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« Reply #299 on: May 25, 2020, 09:54:03 am »
So what you're saying is that the mayor, health officials, and the RCMP are accusing people of this in these parks, but they were all wrong...  they all were just looking at some misleading photos. 

Ok Conspira-Kimmy....   ::)

I already said that there may well have been real actual social distancing violations in the park.


What I am asking is why do media reports, like the video you linked, insist on using misleading photography?

Do you disagree that any of the screenshots I posted create a misleading appearance? 

Is it being a "conspiritard" to ask why the media would use misleading photography in their reports?

My favorite example, from earlier in this thread where the Radio-Canada photographer set out to deliberately create misleading photos to demonstrate this effect. This was one of those photos...



...and this CBC English article uses one of the photos he deliberately made to be misleading for their article.

It's crazy to ask why they're doing this?


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