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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #165 on: February 25, 2020, 10:33:33 pm »
"cancel culture"... you've been warned!

I think Ricky Gervais and JK Rowling have discovered the way to beat cancel culture: when the lynch mob starts howling for your head...  ignore them.

Of course, it helps to be sufficiently famous or powerful that the mob can't hurt you.

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #166 on: February 25, 2020, 11:18:09 pm »
I think the outrage from the black/brownface was used up months ago. I'm surprised people still think it will work to generate a reaction.


Well, it seemed like you were right.  It seemed like people are mostly over it.  It seemed like most people have either forgiven or forgotten. It seems like Trudeau more or less escaped unscathed.  So you'd think the last person to bring the blackface fiasco back into the public eye would be Trudeau himself.

But of course...

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Justin Trudeau acknowledged his own past history of unconscious racism during a celebration Monday of Black History Month.

The prime minister reflected on the "dumb choices" he made when he donned blackface and brownface multiple times in his younger days.

"Dumb choices?" Yes.  "Unconscious racism?" No.  It wasn't unconscious racism.  It was just racism.

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Trudeau said he experienced "a moment of deep disappointment" in himself when he realized that he'd "really hurt" people who considered him an ally in the fight against racism.

But he said black leaders across the country encouraged him to turn the mortifying disclosure into something positive for race relations in Canada.

"It will be on my shoulders because that is part of my story now, to make sure that I can then say, 'This is what we kept working on, this is what we kept doing and this is how we as a team, as a government and me as an individual is working to make sure that ... these barriers and this anti-black racism that still exists is directly addressed and minimized across this country for future generations."'

Maybe the thinking is that since white guilt is very popular right now, being the guiltiest white of all is something he can use as a positive?  I dunno. I do think it's a little galling that the guy who hadn't figured out that blackface was wrong by age 29 is calling for the rest of us to learn from his example.

He has blamed his behavior on "a massive blindspot of privilege".  Which privilege?  Being white? Perhaps.  Being wealthy? Perhaps. What about being the son of Canada's most famous Prime Minister? Was growing up as Justin Trudeau a get-out-of-jail card that let you get away with doing stuff that would have got other people told-off or perhaps even beat up?  I dunno.  Whatever the case, he's gotten away with appalling behavior with complete impunity, and I'm not sure that makes him the best guy to be lecturing the rest of us.



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« Reply #167 on: February 27, 2020, 01:37:12 pm »
When that past marginalized and continues to marginalize pat of the population, it's definitely not worth celebrating.  This has been a long road of understanding for me.

There were good things to happen in the past as well as bad things, things we should be both proud and not proud of.  That has always been true and will always be true in any country in the world.  If today wasn't better than 100 years ago then that would be bad because we aren't progressing.

You can celebrate the past while also acknowledging its shortcomings.  Every PM before a couple of decades ago can be rightfully accused of being transphobe homophobes for the rights they didn't give LGBT, and every PM before the 1920's can be called sexist for not fighting for women's suffrage.  We can do this kind of thing for every PM and POTUS.  Eventually we'll have most people believing Canada is an inherently evil illegitimate colonial country, they'll be ashamed and will protest Canada Day more than they celebrate it.  It's already started.  That's how you destroy a country.

There's certainly some truth to view but there's at least 2 sides to every narrative and acknowledging only one side is an incomplete view of history.
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« Reply #168 on: February 27, 2020, 02:04:05 pm »
Every PM before a couple of decades ago can be rightfully accused of being transphobe

It has been a slow road, but I would say the first significant step was more than a couple of decades ago. On February 7, 1968, Federal Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, Pierre E. Trudeau said: "There's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation."

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« Reply #169 on: February 27, 2020, 11:20:51 pm »
deadline day today for candidates applying for/meeting first phase criteria to replace weakAndy as CPC leader:

what say you waldo.... uhhh... the waldo says Slim Pickens!

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« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2020, 01:13:11 am »
Despite what you guys might assume, I actually haven't voted Conservative for a long time.  And nothing on that list is likely to change my mind. Most of these names don't mean much to me, those that I do recognize don't inspire.  I don't hate Peter MacKay, I guess, but I can't picture him fixing what ails the party, either.

From what I gather, Leslyn Lewis is a far right religious nutjob. I wonder if the same elements that put Andrew Scheer and Brad Trost into the running last time will pick Lewis as their proxy this time.  She's a black woman from Toronto instead of a white man from the prairies, but she has endorsements from Campaign Life and others who are excited about her being pro-life, "supporting traditional marriage", and that sort of thing.

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« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2020, 07:53:58 am »
deadline day today for candidates applying for/meeting first phase criteria to replace weakAndy as CPC leader:

what say you waldo.... uhhh... the waldo says Slim Pickens!



Might I ask which CPC candidate would you consider not "Slim Pickens"?

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« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2020, 02:39:25 pm »
Might I ask which CPC candidate would you consider not "Slim Pickens"?

Who on the list do you like?

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« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2020, 08:09:51 pm »
deadline day today for candidates applying for/meeting first phase criteria to replace weakAndy as CPC leader:

what say you waldo.... uhhh... the waldo says Slim Pickens!


the Slim Pickens are "less slim" after spokespersons for 'Richard Decarie' & 'Rudy Husny' notified media today that their respective entries have been made... and are still waiting on the official CPC "stamp of approval"



and, of course, the Trumpian like 'Jim Karahalios' --- that makes 9!

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« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2020, 08:18:28 pm »
Might I ask which CPC candidate would you consider not "Slim Pickens"?

first, I really struggled with the loss of Brad Wall... then when Poilievre quit I felt forlorn and abandoned... the topper was seeing John Baird "pull out"! But member Boges, when Buffalo Gal left, geezaz, that was the last straw! After all that, the CPC leadership run to replace weakAndy was deadToMe!

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« Reply #175 on: March 01, 2020, 12:30:10 pm »
and now... the CPC powersThatBe rule that SoCon Decarie (former Harper adviser) can't play! And he refuses to go gently into the night:


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« Reply #176 on: March 01, 2020, 12:34:25 pm »
waldo, howsABout a running snapshot! And by the by, at what point do "moderates" mmmKay & O'Tool begin to pivot away from the SoCon base - or do they?

and then there were 8!


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« Reply #177 on: March 01, 2020, 12:52:00 pm »
They're so ****.
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« Reply #178 on: March 01, 2020, 04:33:44 pm »
Never trust a man in a bow-tie.
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« Reply #179 on: March 01, 2020, 09:53:35 pm »
and now... the CPC powersThatBe rule that SoCon Decarie (former Harper adviser) can't play! And he refuses to go gently into the night:



SoCons are not electable on a national stage. They should just start their own party and remain isolated, shrieking anachronisms in parliament.