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« Reply #210 on: May 18, 2020, 08:50:50 pm »
Youíre the one who claimed it...  why would I try and prove your argument for you?   ::)

So Liberals do support PM's with dual citizenship.
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« Reply #211 on: May 20, 2020, 12:27:24 am »
and if you weren't aware, Buffalo Gal Rempel has been phoning it in from Oklahoma the last 3 months... nice work... if you can get it!

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« Reply #212 on: May 20, 2020, 02:42:39 am »
How is one an MP for Canada when one is living in the USA?
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« Reply #213 on: May 20, 2020, 08:38:38 am »
It would be interesting to know how many MPís have dual citizenship. Bet there are more than a couple,
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« Reply #214 on: May 20, 2020, 08:46:21 am »
So Scheer said he was in the "process" of renouncing his US citizenship during the election, but there was no actual record in US immigration records showing he filed any such process.  Turns out "in the process" means "i'm thinking about it".  He never even submitted an application and was only going to if he became PM, and then well only maybe, probably was lying about that too.
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« Reply #215 on: May 20, 2020, 10:49:50 am »
It would be interesting to know how many MPís have dual citizenship. Bet there are more than a couple,

I donít think it matters.  Do you?

Living in another country while youíre an MP...   that should never happen. 

It really makes the CPC criticism of the PM visiting his family 30 minutes away look petty and stupid when one of their ďstarĒ MPs is living in Oklahoma (visiting family?).
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« Reply #216 on: May 20, 2020, 11:57:40 am »
I donít think it matters.  Do you?

Living in another country while youíre an MP...   that should never happen.
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That's not quite what happened. You can approve or not but she doesn't live there.

Accusing Conservatives of being hypocritical in the past over dual citizenship is fair but it has nothing to do with Scheer not renouncing his US citizenship. He has been criticized for hiding it, which he didn't, he just didn't advertise it. He should have. There are currently 44 MP's and 12 Senators who were born outside Canada, at least 22 have citizenships in another country and some of them are in cabinet. Dion and Mulcair are both dual citizens. Anyone who would accuse Scheer of divided loyalties because of his citizenship should be questioning their own objectivity.

Scheer will no longer be leader so whether he renounces his US citizenship or not is a personal matter. Who cares.

As for breaking promises, Trudeau promised modest 10 billion deficits to kick start the economy returning to a balanced budget by the end of his first term. Instead he added 80 billion to the debt and Morneau's December update was forecasting adding another 97 billion to the debt by 2025.

Seems to me the dual citizenship of one person should have been small potatoes next to over 170 billion in added debt.

Now we will be adding hundreds of billions more debt by 2025 but that is another story.
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« Reply #217 on: May 20, 2020, 12:03:38 pm »
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That's not quite what happened. You can approve or not but she doesn't live there.

Accusing Conservatives of being hypocritical in the past over dual citizenship is fair but it has nothing to do with Scheer not renouncing his US citizenship. He has been criticized for hiding it, which he didn't, he just didn't advertise it. He should have. There are currently 44 MP's and 12 Senators who were born outside Canada, at least 22 have citizenships in another country and some of them are in cabinet. Dion and Mulcair are both dual citizens. Anyone who would accuse Scheer of divided loyalties because of his citizenship should be questioning their own objectivity.

Scheer will no longer be leader so whether he renounces his US citizenship or not is a personal matter. Who cares.

As for breaking promises, Trudeau promised modest 10 billion deficits to kick start the economy returning to a balanced budget by the end of his first term. Instead he added 80 billion to the debt and Morneau's December update was forecasting adding another 97 billion to the debt by 2025.

Seems to me the dual citizenship of one person should have been small potatoes next to over 170 billion in added debt.

Now we will be adding hundreds of billions more debt by 2025 but that is another story.

Your fixation on the deficit is taking over every post...   dual citizenship and living in a different country as an MP is what weíre discussing.  There is already a thread about the deficit. 

I think itís tone-deaf and hypocritical to live in the USA, even just during the pandemic, while you are an MP.  Meanwhile, the CPC criticized Trudeau for travelling 20 minutes to see his family.

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« Reply #218 on: May 20, 2020, 12:22:58 pm »
Your fixation on the deficit is taking over every post...   dual citizenship and living in a different country as an MP is what weíre discussing.  There is already a thread about the deficit. 

I think itís tone-deaf and hypocritical to live in the USA, even just during the pandemic, while you are an MP.  Meanwhile, the CPC criticized Trudeau for travelling 20 minutes to see his family.

Gee, and I thought the subject was breaking promises. Guess not.
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« Reply #219 on: November 17, 2020, 05:09:09 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5805264

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Former Conservative leader Andrew Scheer said today he has decided to stop employing his sister-in-law in his constituency office ó but CBC News has learned he also employed his own sister before changes to Commons rules barred MPs from hiring family members.

Two sources familiar with the matter say that while Scheer was still Speaker of the House of Commons, he hired his younger sister, Anne Marie Grabetz, through the Speaker's office.

Good olí conservative integrity and ideals.... 

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« Reply #220 on: November 17, 2020, 05:17:44 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5805264

Good olí conservative integrity and ideals....

To go with the ol' Liberal integrity.  Looks like our politicians are opportunistic schmucks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/yasmin-ratansi-liberal-mp-quits-hired-sister-1.5795407
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« Reply #221 on: November 17, 2020, 05:21:16 pm »
To go with the ol' Liberal integrity.  Looks like our politicians are opportunistic schmucks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/yasmin-ratansi-liberal-mp-quits-hired-sister-1.5795407

And she was turfed because of it.
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« Reply #222 on: November 17, 2020, 05:29:15 pm »
Good olí conservative integrity and ideals....

of course, weakAndy is just collateral damage... fallout... from the recent days focus on employing family members - initiated after it came to light a Liberal MP had hired her sister. Of course, CPC/O'Tool are livid over this... though I do believe a couple of the usual suspects are just a tad too quiet from their norm!  ;D




cause there are ways 'around the rules'... of these 2 stalwarts, take a guess which one employs the other's wife as an executive assistant. Take a guess...

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« Reply #223 on: November 17, 2020, 05:34:02 pm »
And she was turfed because of it.

Let's turf Scheer.
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« Reply #224 on: November 20, 2020, 12:29:29 pm »
Let's turf Scheer.

Who's that little guy? Alfred E. Neumann?

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