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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2019, 08:36:58 pm »
Considering the taxpayer footed the over $215,000 bill for Trudeau's Bahama's vacation, Liberals shouldn't be throwing stones.

Canadians footed the bill for security and transport.  They do that all day every day.
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2019, 09:12:47 pm »
Canadians footed the bill for security and transport.  They do that all day every day.

They do?

Security I can see but not all the rest. In March they said it was 127K but it turns out the RCMP spend !53K on security alone $81K more than they originally stated. What the hell were they doing?

This was also when he was being investigated and eventually found to have violated conflict of interest rules with his Aga Khan trip.
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2019, 09:19:09 pm »
They do?

Yeah - all day every day.  The figures look huge, but they're not.  The PMs security budget alone is well north of $10M, never mind transport.

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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2019, 09:36:31 pm »
Yeah - all day every day.  The figures look huge, but they're not.  The PMs security budget alone is well north of $10M, never mind transport.

They are huge.
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2019, 09:50:08 pm »
Maybe Trump can move across the border if the impeachment thing is successful and take over from Scheer. I'm not sure where Donny is on abortion but by gawd the coal mines would be back in business big time.

Every time you bring up Trump in a thread that has nothing remotely to do with him, an angel loses its wings.

684 angels have crash landed....
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2019, 10:03:24 pm »
Every time you bring up Trump in a nthread that has nothing remotely to do with him, an angel loses its wings.

684 angels have crash landed....

Well I have only crashed once so those angels should listen to me.

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2019, 11:18:46 pm »
Any suggestions as to who will/should replace Scheer?

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2019, 05:26:10 am »
Any suggestions as to who will/should replace Scheer?

If Rona Ambrose wins, the Conservatives will win a majority.  I say this because my father, a blood red Liberal, says he likes her.  ???
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2019, 06:58:37 am »
I'm no Scheer fan but facts are important:
Painting this as if Scheer himself dipped into party funds on the sly, "a secret slush fund" (Kory Teneycke) to pay for private school tuition is ludicrous:
"As is the normal practice for political parties, the Party offered to reimburse some of the costs associated with being a national leader and relocating to Ottawa," said van Vugt in a statement. "Shortly after Mr. Scheer was elected leader, we had a meeting where I made a standard offer to cover costs associated with moving his family from Regina to Ottawa. This includes a differential in schooling costs between Regina and Ottawa."

The CPC Executive confirmed that it approved paying the difference between private school costs in Saskatchewan and Ottawa.

Scheer is under attack by some people in the CPC, one or more of whom leaked this info to the media, slanted in a way that blames Scheer instead of the Party.
 
More to the point of his reasons for leaving ...
"It wasn’t so much what Andrew Scheer said as I left his office a week ago that made me think he wouldn’t stay on as leader, it was how he said it and the look in his eyes.

“Thomas is 14, he was 10 when this started,” Scheer said.
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He told me he wanted to stay on as Conservative leader and would be mounting a campaign to keep his job, but the emotion wasn’t there. When I told him that I didn’t see the fire in his belly to keep the job, he didn’t argue with me."

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-exasperated-scheer-leaves-on-his-own-terms

No doubt dragging his kids into the media with the tuition issue may have ignited his immediate resignation as leader.
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2019, 09:53:04 am »
The CPC needs to govern from the Centre.

Social Conservatives can vote for the Bernier party if they want that.

We see from the Labour Party in the UK that if you try to govern from the fringes of your party, you lose.
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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2019, 12:22:59 pm »
Well I have only crashed once so those angels should listen to me.

I hope it was only that time you abandoned your wings, and not with them.

Any suggestions as to who will/should replace Scheer?

I saw little Peter Polliwog on the list of possibilities (I think it was CTV I was flipping through at the time). Hopefully they are not that dumb. McKay has a lot of baggage, but might be able to lead the party. While I like Chong, I don't think he has enough power to get there in the party.

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2019, 12:48:48 pm »
I hope it was only that time you abandoned your wings, and not with them.

I saw little Peter Polliwog on the list of possibilities (I think it was CTV I was flipping through at the time). Hopefully they are not that dumb. McKay has a lot of baggage, but might be able to lead the party. While I like Chong, I don't think he has enough power to get there in the party.

I listened to an interview this am with a number of former CPC members. Peter Mackay and Erin O'toole's names came up fairly strong as did Michelle Rempel and Rona Ambrose. I certainly concur that I would leave Polliwog in the swamp. I did notice as well though that even among the interviewees there were hints of infighting between those who were social Conservative and others from the further right of the party. Sounded to me like it may take some time for the party to get it's platform focused. I can imagine JT is happy with that.   

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2019, 12:49:48 pm »
Any suggestions as to who will/should replace Scheer?

there's a deeeep bench to choose from!



make it so!

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2019, 01:37:24 pm »
there's a deeeep bench to choose from!



make it so!

This sentiment is the exact same that sees no one in the Democratic POTUS field that can beat Trump. It's pure partisanship.

I think Rona Ambrose would be a great leader of the CPC.

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Re: Andrew Sheer Resigns
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2019, 02:19:33 pm »
This sentiment is the exact same that sees no one in the Democratic POTUS field that can beat Trump. It's pure partisanship.

I think Rona Ambrose would be a great leader of the CPC.

I think she would be a good choice but she says she isn't interested.
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