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« Reply #330 on: April 20, 2020, 05:00:50 pm »
I'm not an economist so this negative oil price thing is new to me but my gas gauge is down to a quarter tank so I'm expecting a nice surprise when I get to the pumps.

58 cents/litre today
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« Reply #331 on: April 20, 2020, 05:05:28 pm »
58 cents/litre today

Where are those pumps?!

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« Reply #332 on: April 20, 2020, 05:08:23 pm »
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Oil price goes into negative territory as traders get squeezed running for the exits

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/oil-price-monday-1.5538048

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« Reply #333 on: April 20, 2020, 05:11:45 pm »
Where are those pumps?!

Drayton Valley
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« Reply #334 on: April 20, 2020, 05:16:17 pm »
Drayton Valley

Better than we've got but the drive over there to fuel up would offset difference. Unless I rented an 18 wheeler with some really big tanks in tow.

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« Reply #335 on: April 22, 2020, 09:11:27 pm »
We need government intervention to ensure that there are the incentives for green energy and the disincentives for dirty energy. 

Yes, by shifting some oil subsidies and tipping profitability to renewable energy.

Free the energy market.


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Phasing out of internal combustion engines and forcing all vehicles to be zero emissions by a certain date is not “setting the energy market free”.  It’s just the opposite.

Green the electricity grid is the first goal. That's the big energy production.

Cars get replaced naturally. No need to force that.
Soon all internal combustion engine vehicles will be classics. 
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« Reply #336 on: April 22, 2020, 10:23:47 pm »
Gas is so cheap I'll be doing lots of socially isolated cruising in the old land yacht this summer, who cares if it only gets 11 MPG on premium.
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« Reply #337 on: June 14, 2020, 11:13:15 pm »
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4353723-time-to-overweight-renewable-energy

*Oil consumption could very well have peaked in 2019 at about 100 million barrels per day.

*Some see the rise of remote working as the biggest threat to oil demand going forward.

*Coal use in the U.S. has been in decline, and in 2019, electricity generated from renewable sources surpassed coal for the first time in over 130 years.

*The S&P Global Clean Energy Index was up almost 45 percent for the two-year period through June 5.

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« Reply #338 on: September 03, 2021, 01:06:16 pm »
Looked up my Carbon Tax credit:

Tax return line 45110   
Climate Action Incentive (CAI)   $525.00

I calculate this to be more than 25% of what I pay annually for vehicle fuel.  So 4.42 cents per litre means zero to me.

I win.

Yay Trudeau.


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« Reply #339 on: September 03, 2021, 02:34:38 pm »
Looked up my Carbon Tax credit:

Tax return line 45110   
Climate Action Incentive (CAI)   $525.00

I calculate this to be more than 25% of what I pay annually for vehicle fuel.  So 4.42 cents per litre means zero to me.

I win.

Yay Trudeau.

So you judge government programs on whether you pay more?

Personally, I judge the government’s policies on whether they work. 



The government hasn’t reduced GHGs in Canada whatsoever.  And you want to cheer Trudeau for his great climate change policies? 

I think your metrics are f@cked up.
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« Reply #340 on: September 03, 2021, 03:10:03 pm »
1. So you judge government programs on whether you pay more? Personally, I judge the government’s policies on whether they work. 
 

2. The government hasn’t reduced GHGs in Canada whatsoever.  And you want to cheer Trudeau for his great climate change policies? 

I think your metrics are f@cked up.
1. You are incapable of spotting fake glee.
2. Nothing like that.  I'm tacitly cutting down the 'Trudeau's Carbon Tax is a burden' meme.  It is not.  Is it an effective program ?  To be seen.  Is it better than O'Toole's ?  Yes.

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« Reply #341 on: September 03, 2021, 03:59:06 pm »
1. You are incapable of spotting fake glee.
2. Nothing like that.  I'm tacitly cutting down the 'Trudeau's Carbon Tax is a burden' meme.  It is not.  Is it an effective program ?  To be seen.  Is it better than O'Toole's ?  Yes.

1 - Or, you are incapable of projecting fake glee.  ;)

2 - Agreed.  So far, it hasn’t been nearly enough.  But most people who cared to look into it knew it wouldn’t be.
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« Reply #342 on: September 03, 2021, 04:04:52 pm »
Looked up my Carbon Tax credit:

Tax return line 45110   
Climate Action Incentive (CAI)   $525.00

I calculate this to be more than 25% of what I pay annually for vehicle fuel.  So 4.42 cents per litre means zero to me.

I win.

Yay Trudeau.

Yay Trudeau for giving you free money and charging it to the debt.

I agree with the carbon tax, but this PM is the most fiscally irresponsible PM in the country's history by orders of magnitude.
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« Reply #343 on: September 03, 2021, 04:12:46 pm »
Yes, by shifting some oil subsidies and tipping profitability to renewable energy.
Oil and gas do not need subsidies to be profitable. Nor does it get much. Most of what the environmental lobby calls 'subsidies' are things like not charging the oil and gas industry for the pollution cars put out.

Wind and solar will never be profitable in Canada. Nor reliable. We either build nuclear power stations or give up.
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« Reply #344 on: September 03, 2021, 04:18:38 pm »
1. You are incapable of spotting fake glee.
2. Nothing like that.  I'm tacitly cutting down the 'Trudeau's Carbon Tax is a burden' meme.  It is not.  Is it an effective program ?  To be seen.  Is it better than O'Toole's ?  Yes.

What's O'Toole's policy you're basing this assessment on?

But yeah, the carbon tax is actually net profitable to people it seems!  Trudeau expects that he can buy the votes of Canadians by doing these kinds of things.  He is so selfish and corrupt that he is perfectly willing to ruin Canada's fiscally strong debt position that he inherited in order to buy people's votes in an attempt to secure his own job and power.  A patriot is someone who doesn't compromise the interests of their country for their own self-serving interests.  And to be fair, any Canadian whose votes  can be bought in this fashion is no less corrupt, self-serving, and unpatriotic than a crooked politician whose votes can be bought off by corporate lobbyists.

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